Who is the Biggest Coward in Boxing?

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  • Fox McCloud
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    Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
    They're ridiculous. They spam the forums with "pbf b33t Huhgmen Hattin ftw" all day, then people like me who actually agree with them on this point out WHY we think hatton will lose, like being the smaller man and the 147 weight class, are attacked.

    So basically the floyd fans want all of us to

    A: Think Floyd will win

    B: Think that he'll win because he's floyd p4p #1 and no other external reasons.

    C: Ignore reality
    No no... no one is saying that is not the reason that Floyd will win... Ricky isn't going to be as strong (although I doubt it would matter, I can't imagine a fighter's toughness leaving much when they are dropping down in weight, for example, I cannot imagine Oscar getting KO'd at 147, considering he stood up to 160 pounders.

    Anyways, most of the arguing on this particular thread is that it is not incumbent on Floyd to fight according to every preference Ricky Hatton has. Like it has been said, Ricky is the smaller draw, and is getting a title shot, while retaining his titles. He is also ranked lower P4P.

    I agree that 147 might be a small disadvantage for Hatton, but in reality, it's not like Floyd really uses size to beat anyone at 147... keep in mind, his first two fights at 147, his fight night weight was 147. All it means is that Hatton's power has 7 more pounds to break through.

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  • eazy_mas
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    Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
    They're ridiculous. They spam the forums with "pbf b33t Huhgmen Hattin ftw" all day, then people like me who actually agree with them on this point out WHY we think hatton will lose, like being the smaller man and the 147 weight class, are attacked.

    So basically the floyd fans want all of us to

    A: Think Floyd will win

    B: Think that he'll win because he's floyd p4p #1 and no other external reasons.

    C: Ignore reality

    wel Floyd win because he is discpline and smart in the ring.

    He good mobility and defense as well as speed on his side. He could counter shot.

    but Floyd doesnt throw that much combo

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  • BmoreBrawler
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    Originally posted by eazy_mas
    well Floyd fought at 154 and showed people it not about the size but the brains
    I dont know about brains, I'd say its not about size but the lack of brains of the judges if anything.

    But anyway, it is important to hatton to not lose his power advantage because of how he fights. Floyd is a runner, so the only relevant attributes are speed and bribing the judges.

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  • BmoreBrawler
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    Originally posted by joepal
    Exactly. I can't believe that a fan would actually lump two categories in one and call them the same. The things Floyd fans say really.
    They're ridiculous. They spam the forums with "pbf b33t Huhgmen Hattin ftw" all day, then people like me who actually agree with them on this point out WHY we think hatton will lose, like being the smaller man and the 147 weight class, are attacked.

    So basically the floyd fans want all of us to

    A: Think Floyd will win

    B: Think that he'll win because he's floyd p4p #1 and no other external reasons.

    C: Ignore reality

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  • eazy_mas
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    Originally posted by joepal
    Exactly. I can't believe that a fan would actually lump two categories in one and call them the same. The things Floyd fans say really.
    well Floyd fought at 154 and showed people it not about the size but the brains

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  • joepal
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    Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
    A boxer's fighting body is built at the second weigh-in. After that it is all hydration and rest. Hatton gainst more weight because he has a slower metabolism, Floyd is a freak of nature. Therefore the muscle amount in floyd and hattons body will be set at weigh-in. I doubt hatton will allow floyd to have 147 power while he retains speed but has 140 power.

    Weight matters.
    Exactly. I can't believe that a fan would actually lump two categories in one and call them the same. The things Floyd fans say really.

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  • joepal
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    Originally posted by -Antonio-
    In this case, no they don't at all. Floyd weighed in at 150 before the Oscar fight and weighed 148 in the ring. The guy eats cookies, drinks coffee, and snacks on chips. He could have sweat out 8 pounds in 7 days. Stop trying to look for excuses its not going to work.

    The weight means NOTHING. If anything it helps Hatton because he can weigh in at 143, still keep his speed, and not worry about killing himself to get those extra 3 pounds. If it were Margarito or Cotto or Clottey who rehydrate up to 15 pounds after the weigh in, then it'd be different.

    Collazo was afit 160 pounds in the ring when he fought Hatton. Now thats the disadvantage you are talking about. Floyd will be 150 tops.
    Jesus Christ. Here is an idiot who claims that 147 and 140 do not have any difference and pertain to exactly the same thing. Why do you think they make weight categories *******? Do you even know the principle behind these weight categories?

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  • BmoreBrawler
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    Originally posted by -Antonio-
    In this case, no they don't at all. Floyd weighed in at 150 before the Oscar fight and weighed 148 in the ring. The guy eats cookies, drinks coffee, and snacks on chips. He could have sweat out 8 pounds in 7 days. Stop trying to look for excuses its not going to work.

    The weight means NOTHING. If anything it helps Hatton because he can weigh in at 143, still keep his speed, and not worry about killing himself to get those extra 3 pounds. If it were Margarito or Cotto or Clottey who rehydrate up to 15 pounds after the weigh in, then it'd be different.

    Collazo was afit 160 pounds in the ring when he fought Hatton. Now thats the disadvantage you are talking about. Floyd will be 150 tops.

    A boxer's fighting body is built at the second weigh-in. After that it is all hydration and rest. Hatton gainst more weight because he has a slower metabolism, Floyd is a freak of nature. Therefore the muscle amount in floyd and hattons body will be set at weigh-in. I doubt hatton will allow floyd to have 147 power while he retains speed but has 140 power.

    Weight matters.

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  • -Antonio-
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    Originally posted by joepal
    If the contracted weight means nothing, why didn't the fight take place at 140? Are you saying Hatton chose 147 over 130?
    Because in this case Floyd is the number one p4p fighter, and he is the WBC Welterweight Champ. A) the fight is more marketable as a title fight, and B) Mayweather shouldn't have to go down in weight if he's the one being challenged.

    Originally posted by joepal
    You're a piece of ****.
    That one hurt, really it did.

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  • eazy_mas
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    Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
    Hatton would have to be a moron to give up his rather substantial power advantage over mayweather by allowing him to build up muscle and power to the full welterweight limit while Hatton frets about loss of speed. The fact of the matter is, weigh-in weights matter.
    Hatton biggest weapon is the fast left hook to the body.

    it exicting if he doesnt hold I seen Hatton HL he is a beast with his left hook with the speed and all that. Cotto is a left hook are stronger but Hatton is faster

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