Is paul Williams Floyds Vernon forest?

**Ray Ray** · 10-26-2007, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Barlog

Could williams Be the one all the PBF haters looking for all these years?
The one that would give floyd his first loss?

Could he be what forest was to Shane?

I think so.

The enormous height and reach advantage would be alot of ground to cover.

What do any of you think?

Honestly Williams is the only guy I see beating Mayweather. I'm a fan of both but I just think that shoulder roll D will not be enough for Williams and his high output of punches.

**AntonTheMeh** · 10-26-2007, 02:20 PM

no he isn't as fast as forrest was in comparison to mosley.
floyd is too fast for him.

**tredh** · 10-26-2007, 02:29 PM

I think that a fight between PBF and Williams could turn out to be like the first Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Tommy Hearns fight. But that doesn't mean PBF would come out with the win. I just think it would be a great fight. I think PBF would get close to Williams and use his elusive style in close quarters to make Williams miss a little bit and to not let Williams get extension on his punches.

**Ramamaiden** · 10-26-2007, 02:32 PM

i think williams could be able to beat mayweather because of the amazing volume of punches he throws. also williams would use his reach to hit pbf and im sure he wont be pressuring and following pbf through all the ring. he wont be hurting him, but because of the volume of punches he is going to have the judges favor. thats why it would be interesting watching pbf being the aggresor for a change =P.
its kinda the situation of leonard - hearns. on the first rounds leonard couldn´t reach hearns and hearns was using his reach on his favor, then leonard started to be more aggresive cos if not he was doomed to lose.

**ztrac79** · 10-26-2007, 02:36 PM

I think he definitely causes allot of problems for Floyd. I would actually favor Williams if he fought Floyd. The shoulder roll D is harder to execute against taller opponents. Not saying it can't be done, but a taller opponent can change things up and sometimes find you even when you roll the shoulder, when a shorter person wouldnt have.

**crillz** · 10-26-2007, 02:50 PM

I think this would be the worse match up for williams, the comparison to Hearns-Leonard made me realize just how hard PBF would be to his for Williams, I didn't consider the fact that Mayweather has longer arms BUT is shorter which plays against Williams, Floyd having the longer arms and being the masterful boxer he is he will keep it moving and evade, he could bob and weave very low making Williams lower himself in order to connect, it's then with his blinding speed Mayweather will counter cleanly and hit Williams in ways he never felt, all that 200 punches **** wont work because much like the Oscar fight none of it will land clean, Floyd will land the cleaner more clearly visible shots that will earn him the close rounds and Mayweather has power too so he will land his power punches all day..

Williams is very big but as is he gives up a lot of his size advantages and brings himself back down to earth by doing that in fighting exchange, he should be on some Mayweather **** but right now he's more like a over sized Collazo and even Collazo uses his distance to impose any advantages he may have, even Sharmba Mitchell connected clean with Williams because he was so willing to exchange he made himself hittable, thats the losing strategy against Mayweather and I picked Williams before but once I realized that Floyds arms are longer and that Williams is just taller I realized Floyd would win, at least IMO.. 100

**Ramamaiden** · 10-26-2007, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by crillz

I think this would be the worse match up for williams, the comparison to Hearns-Leonard made me realize just how hard PBF would be to his for Williams, I didn't consider the fact that Mayweather has longer arms BUT is shorter which plays against Williams, Floyd having the longer arms and being the masterful boxer he is he will keep it moving and evade, he could bob and weave very low making Williams lower himself in order to connect, it's then with his blinding speed Mayweather will counter cleanly and hit Williams in ways he never felt, all that 200 punches **** wont work because much like the Oscar fight none of it will land clean, Floyd will land the cleaner more clearly visible shots that will earn him the close rounds and Mayweather has power too so he will land his power punches all day..

Williams is very big but as is he gives up a lot of his size advantages and brings himself back down to earth by doing that in fighting exchange, he should be on some Mayweather **** but right now he's more like a over sized Collazo and even Collazo uses his distance to impose any advantages he may have, even Sharmba Mitchell connected clean with Williams because he was so willing to exchange he made himself hittable, thats the losing strategy against Mayweather and I picked Williams before but once I realized that Floyds arms are longer and that Williams is just taller I realized Floyd would win, at least IMO.. 100

are you sure mayweather has more reach than williams??
on boxrec it says that williams has 25 cm more of reach than mayweather :S

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...=352&cat=boxer

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...0755&cat=boxer

**Pugilistic�** · 10-26-2007, 03:16 PM

I really have no idea. The reach and height of williams would be something new to mayweather but a slick, great defensive boxer would be something new to williams. i have no idea right now.

**kayjay** · 10-26-2007, 03:18 PM

Paul Williams is not that good. I worry about some of you for failing to see this. Don't you pay any attention to balance or punch technique?

Is paul Williams Floyds Vernon forest?