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  • SUPERBAD23
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    #51
    Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr
    I might be pushing it when I say this but IMHO I think Alfonso Gomez has a chance at winning a SD against the so-called " Most Feared Man in boxing"

    He is constanly improving and he is going to be in the picture of the WW title chase.
    wtf!!!

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    • tito yuca
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      #52
      Originally posted by toe to toe
      any true boxing fan doesnt stop supporting a fighter because of a loss. margarito always brings a show for the fans. he is always trying for the knockout and he will leave everything in the ring to bring the fans some excitement. i will cheer for him until he retires. i know coward mayweather fans will stop supporting him when hatton knocks him out.
      You gotta love the ******ity of the Margarito fans. In the interview THIS SAME GUY POSTED Margarito said he doesn't go for the knockout, yet his fans repeatedly say that he does as a justification to be on his **** and as testament of how "exciting" he is, especially when compared against the "boring" Floyd Mayweather, jr.

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      • Ray  Ray
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        #53
        Originally posted by SUPERBAD23
        wtf!!!
        Just a lil something for the thread starter since Margorito is supposed to be the best.

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        • AntonTheMeh
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          #54

          YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT PEOPLE DUCKING MARGARITO?
          MARGARITO HAS BEEN DUCKING IVAN DRAGO .
          **** THAT IT HAD TO BE SAID.
          GRANITE CHIN MY ASS..
          HIS 1850 PSI PUNCH WOULD TURN MARGO'S GRANITE CHIN TO ****ING MUD.
          LET IT GO ALL READY LET THE GUY BEAT GOLDEN JOHNSON THEN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT HIM BEING BACK IN THE PICTURE.LET IT GO............

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          • tredh
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            #55
            Originally posted by SalvaDominicano
            everything u want to know is there but u choose to hate on him instead. a B or C level fighter doesnt knock out a guy who everyone thought was the best prospect in the sport at the time in Cintron. a B or C level fighter shouldnt last 12 rds with paul williams who threw over 1200 punches and was rocked several times during that fight. a B or C level fighter doesnt defend his belt 6 times successfully. a B or C level fighter is not avoided by other title holders. what else do u want to know?

            you can read my other posts and see im not a biased fan. everything there is fact so why doesnt everyone look at the facts instead of hating on a fighter who actually comes to fight? because he has fans that defend him? because people think he is the best welter in the division? so what does that have to do with everyone else? people love to hate.
            Wrong prospects lose and get knocked out because they are unproven which is why they are labeled as prospects. Try again on that one.
            B or C level fighters can last 12 rds with anybody if they have a good chin and their opponent is not known as a power puncher wrong again.
            What was the level of competition for those 6 titles defenses? Clottey was winning the fight easily until he got hurt. I wouldn't say Margarito is avoided he brings nothing to the table which is why he doesn't get fights. On top of all that he just lost to a PROSPECT.

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            • SalvaDominicano
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              #56
              Originally posted by tredh
              Wrong prospects lose and get knocked out because they are unproven which is why they are labeled as prospects. Try again on that one.
              B or C level fighters can last 12 rds with anybody if they have a good chin and their opponent is not known as a power puncher wrong again.
              What was the level of competition for those 6 titles defenses? Clottey was winning the fight easily until he got hurt. I wouldn't say Margarito is avoided he brings nothing to the table which is why he doesn't get fights. On top of all that he just lost to a PROSPECT.
              prospects lose and get knocked out but this one came back and won in dominating fashion. Now all the hype about how he's back and he will take over the division meaning people believe in him also meaning his IS proven so you're wrong. B or C level fighters cant last 12 rds with someone who throws 1200 punches a fight. back track your statement cuz paul williams isnt just anybody, you should know that; you are wrong. No one can talk **** about his opponents because the linear champ for a couple years was Zab Judah and he had a similar resume.

              Judah fought: Cory Spinks(twice), Cosme Rivera, Wayne Martell who he absolutely destroyed, Raphael Pineda, and Jaime Rangel.

              Now look a this list.
              Zab Judah - KO'd.
              Spinks - KO'd and now jr. middleweight.
              Damgaard - KO'd and unheard of.
              Collazo - Dismantled by Mosley.
              Cintron - KO'd by Margarito but back in the spotlight.
              Rivera - Retired.
              Urkal - Dismantled by Cotto.
              Estrada - KO'd by Berto and Cintron. Lost to Mosely.
              Lujan - KO'd by Margarito.

              He alos KO'd Manuel "*******" Gomez who was previously considered one of the top 10 welterweights in the world in one round. So how did Baldomir get a shot at Judah before Tony?

              WELTERWEIGHTS (2005)
              Weight Limit: 147 pounds
              Champ: ZAB JUDAH
              Brooklyn, NY 34-2 (25)
              1. ANTONIO MARGARITO
              Mexico 32-4 (23)
              2. CORY SPINKS
              St. Louis, MO 34-3 (11)
              3. SHANE MOSLEY
              Pomona, CA 40-4 (35)
              4. THOMAS DAMGAARD
              Denmark 35-0 (27)
              5. LUIS COLLAZO
              Queens, NY 25-1 (11)
              6. KERMIT CINTRON
              Reading, PA 24-1 (22)
              7. JOSE ANTONIO RIVERA
              Worcester, MA 37-4-1(24)
              8. OKTAY URKAL
              Germany 35-3 (11)
              9. DAVID ESTRADA
              Chicago, IL 18-2 (9)
              10. SEBASTIAN LUJAN
              Argentina 22-2-1 (14)

              He brought nothing to the table except a list of KO's. Williams was a prospect but not every prospect throws that many punches, has the stamina, or has the toughness. If you couldn't see that then please stop commenting. You know nothing about boxing.

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              • Super_Lightweight
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                #57
                Margarito is one of the best welters in the sport. It would be no shock at all for him to get another title. I could see him beating Cotto, Hatton, and possibly Williams in a rematch.

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                • toe to toe
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by SalvaDominicano
                  prospects lose and get knocked out but this one came back and won in dominating fashion. Now all the hype about how he's back and he will take over the division meaning people believe in him also meaning his IS proven so you're wrong. B or C level fighters cant last 12 rds with someone who throws 1200 punches a fight. back track your statement cuz paul williams isnt just anybody, you should know that; you are wrong. No one can talk **** about his opponents because the linear champ for a couple years was Zab Judah and he had a similar resume.

                  Judah fought: Cory Spinks(twice), Cosme Rivera, Wayne Martell who he absolutely destroyed, Raphael Pineda, and Jaime Rangel.

                  Now look a this list.
                  Zab Judah - KO'd.
                  Spinks - KO'd and now jr. middleweight.
                  Damgaard - KO'd and unheard of.
                  Collazo - Dismantled by Mosley.
                  Cintron - KO'd by Margarito but back in the spotlight.
                  Rivera - Retired.
                  Urkal - Dismantled by Cotto.
                  Estrada - KO'd by Berto and Cintron. Lost to Mosely.
                  Lujan - KO'd by Margarito.

                  He alos KO'd Manuel "*******" Gomez who was previously considered one of the top 10 welterweights in the world in one round. So how did Baldomir get a shot at Judah before Tony?

                  WELTERWEIGHTS (2005)
                  Weight Limit: 147 pounds
                  Champ: ZAB JUDAH
                  Brooklyn, NY 34-2 (25)
                  1. ANTONIO MARGARITO
                  Mexico 32-4 (23)
                  2. CORY SPINKS
                  St. Louis, MO 34-3 (11)
                  3. SHANE MOSLEY
                  Pomona, CA 40-4 (35)
                  4. THOMAS DAMGAARD
                  Denmark 35-0 (27)
                  5. LUIS COLLAZO
                  Queens, NY 25-1 (11)
                  6. KERMIT CINTRON
                  Reading, PA 24-1 (22)
                  7. JOSE ANTONIO RIVERA
                  Worcester, MA 37-4-1(24)
                  8. OKTAY URKAL
                  Germany 35-3 (11)
                  9. DAVID ESTRADA
                  Chicago, IL 18-2 (9)
                  10. SEBASTIAN LUJAN
                  Argentina 22-2-1 (14)

                  He brought nothing to the table except a list of KO's. Williams was a prospect but not every prospect throws that many punches, has the stamina, or has the toughness. If you couldn't see that then please stop commenting. You know nothing about boxing.
                  hey man this is an excellent post. these guys just hate margarito but they dont look at the facts. there blidn haters.

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                  • tredh
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by SalvaDominicano
                    prospects lose and get knocked out but this one came back and won in dominating fashion. Now all the hype about how he's back and he will take over the division meaning people believe in him also meaning his IS proven so you're wrong. B or C level fighters cant last 12 rds with someone who throws 1200 punches a fight. back track your statement cuz paul williams isnt just anybody, you should know that; you are wrong. No one can talk **** about his opponents because the linear champ for a couple years was Zab Judah and he had a similar resume.

                    Judah fought: Cory Spinks(twice), Cosme Rivera, Wayne Martell who he absolutely destroyed, Raphael Pineda, and Jaime Rangel.

                    Now look a this list.
                    Zab Judah - KO'd.
                    Spinks - KO'd and now jr. middleweight.
                    Damgaard - KO'd and unheard of.
                    Collazo - Dismantled by Mosley.
                    Cintron - KO'd by Margarito but back in the spotlight.
                    Rivera - Retired.
                    Urkal - Dismantled by Cotto.
                    Estrada - KO'd by Berto and Cintron. Lost to Mosely.
                    Lujan - KO'd by Margarito.

                    He alos KO'd Manuel "*******" Gomez who was previously considered one of the top 10 welterweights in the world in one round. So how did Baldomir get a shot at Judah before Tony?

                    WELTERWEIGHTS (2005)
                    Weight Limit: 147 pounds
                    Champ: ZAB JUDAH
                    Brooklyn, NY 34-2 (25)
                    1. ANTONIO MARGARITO
                    Mexico 32-4 (23)
                    2. CORY SPINKS
                    St. Louis, MO 34-3 (11)
                    3. SHANE MOSLEY
                    Pomona, CA 40-4 (35)
                    4. THOMAS DAMGAARD
                    Denmark 35-0 (27)
                    5. LUIS COLLAZO
                    Queens, NY 25-1 (11)
                    6. KERMIT CINTRON
                    Reading, PA 24-1 (22)
                    7. JOSE ANTONIO RIVERA
                    Worcester, MA 37-4-1(24)
                    8. OKTAY URKAL
                    Germany 35-3 (11)
                    9. DAVID ESTRADA
                    Chicago, IL 18-2 (9)
                    10. SEBASTIAN LUJAN
                    Argentina 22-2-1 (14)

                    He brought nothing to the table except a list of KO's. Williams was a prospect but not every prospect throws that many punches, has the stamina, or has the toughness. If you couldn't see that then please stop commenting. You know nothing about boxing.
                    Yes Cintron came back and won but thats not what you stated in your first post. Actually he is still not proven because he has not beaten a top tier fighter. He still a fighter who has shown a lot promise and potential but he is not proven. B and C level fighters can last with a guy that throws 1200 punches if those punches are not coming from a fighter with KO power and they have a good chin it has been done before and will be done again. There is nothing wrong with that. Never said Paul Williams was anybody but when he BEAT Margarito he was considered a prospect. You can't deny that. It doesn't matter if a prospect throws 1200 punches or 200 punches the amount of punches thrown isn't a direct correlation with ability. You spoke about Margarito's 6 title defenses like he beat some serious names when he didn't that is why I brought up the competition level of those 6 title defenses. I don't know how Baldomir got his shot but it made sense for Baldomir to be a keep busy fight for Judah before he fought PBF except Judah lost. Like I said Margarito brings nothing to the table to make the top people want to fight him. In order for him to get those fights he is going to have to become all champs mandatory.
                    Listen I don't hate Margarito I just don't think he is the most feared anything or has the right to truly talk all the **** he does.

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                    • Brunswick Assassin
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by brently1979
                      Lay off the ICE. Margarito was exposed in that fight. He's a joke, he should have taken that loss like a man.
                      Agreed! Margarito had a 'Sore Loser's attitude after that fight! Williams was the bigger guy and we know that a 'Good' big man is always suppose to beat a 'Good' little man! I was mostly dissapointed with Margarito saying that if Arum was promoting the fight he would have won! What kind of **** is that??? I'd personally like to see these two ga at it in a rematch!

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