Cotto vs Mosley (thinking about Judah and Vargas)

[pesticid]

Mosley tkoed Vargas in 10 in a competitive fight with Vargas clearly losing it.

Cotto tkoed Judah in 11 and the fight was competitive for about 4 rounds.

Which opponent do you think had more to give, Vargas or Judah? And which victory do you think was more impressive.

Me? I still can't comprehend how Vargas made 154.

[AntonTheMeh]

Mosley tkoed Vargas in 10 in a competitive fight with Vargas clearly losing it.

Cotto tkoed Judah in 11 and the fight was competitive for about 4 rounds.

Which opponent do you think had more to give, Vargas or Judah? And which victory do you think was more impressive.

Me? I still can't comprehend how Vargas made 154.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHY HE IS FINISHED. HAD THE VARGAS THAT FOUGHT TITO FOUGHT SHANE I THINK HE BEATS SHANE,FERNANDO WAS INCREDIBLY UNDERRATED CAUSE HE WAS SO YOUNG.

[crillz]

I think Judah had way more to offer, I realized Vargas would never be the same again after Trinidad, his 1st loss killed his momentum, he lost the fire and it was evident because he went down faster to lesser punchers than Trinidad in his fights afterwards, his whole aura was diminished and you can tell because before Trinidad Vargas even beat Winky Wright in his prime who was basically unbeatable at the time due to his defense, he had a flare in him that was explosive and he proved it against Tito by fighting back and making a stand in the fight but he lost it all IMO that night, the loss changed him just like it does to any other fighter but it changed him for the worse..

Judah however still had/has mad gas left in his tank, so much gas he could go on a road trip with no sweat, truth be told I feel Judah would have won against anyone on June 9th with the way he was fighting just not Cotto, he wouldn't have been so badly beaten with someone like Mayweather, he would have been able to hang with Shane due to the speed and power, Williams was already facing Margarito and basically all the available opponents that he could have faced that night wouldn't have beaten THAT Zab on June 9th but Cotto is something else, Cotto used techniques to better his chances on landing, he handled the speed and he dished out his onslaught at will in the later rounds, Judah himself would beat the **** out of Vargas so thats basically self explanitory.. it's a known fact that the people that Mosley has faced in his last 4 fights don't add up to the caliber opponent Cotto is.. for Mosley on Nov. 11 it's going to be like the first time all over again him facing a puncher because he never faced one like Cotto, Cotto ain't your average puncher and I honestly think it will show come fight time..

to answer the question I say Judah is the one who had more to give, his skills alone made it so that between Judah's and Vargas's overall career's, let alone their last outings against Shane and Cotto, that Zab had more to offer.. 100

[steptwome]

THAT'S PROBABLY WHY HE IS FINISHED. HAD THE VARGAS THAT FOUGHT TITO FOUGHT SHANE I THINK HE BEATS SHANE,FERNANDO WAS INCREDIBLY UNDERRATED CAUSE HE WAS SO YOUNG.

Actually he was overrated and his handlers pushed him along too quickly. His handlers should have allowed him to pad his record (like De la Hoya and Tito)while fine tuning his skills. He was basically damaged goods after the Trinidad bout.
The low blows and illegal wrapped gloves didn't help much either-courtest of Trinidad)

[AntonTheMeh]

Actually he was overrated and his handlers pushed him along too quickly. His handlers should have allowed him to pad his record (like De la Hoya and Tito)while fine tuning his skills. He was basically damaged goods after the Trinidad bout.
The low blows and illegal wrapped gloves didn't help much either-courtest of Trinidad)

THAT'S YOUR OPINION.

[NAPO]

Actually he was overrated and his handlers pushed him along too quickly. His handlers should have allowed him to pad his record (like De la Hoya and Tito)while fine tuning his skills. He was basically damaged goods after the Trinidad bout.
The low blows and illegal wrapped gloves didn't help much either-courtest of Trinidad)

hahahaha now is trinidad ur talking **** on mannnnnnnnnnn is like ur a magnet of hatred towards boricuas rememberd where's ur location .

[-Hyperion-]

trindad may have shot vargas, but i think te vargas that fought trinidad wasnt at hi best, his defense was awful that night but maybe cus tito killed him with the first left hook and basicaly vargas could never come back.......

judah is overrated and threw like 4 punches, at least vargas was fighting like he had too, and at a pretty high level too....i think the vargas that fought mosley the frst time was still very dangerous...

[AntonTheMeh]

hahahaha now is trinidad ur talking **** on mannnnnnnnnnn is like ur a magnet of hatred towards boricuas rememberd where's ur location .

NAPO THIS WHY I IGNORE PEOPLE LIKE THAT.VARGAS LOW BLOWED TITO,THERE IS NO MENTION OF THAT,WHY THEN DIDN'T THE FIGHT TURN TO VARGAS'S FAVOR.THERE WERE RUMORS ABOUT ILEGAL HAND WRAPPING FROM HOPKINS AND HIS ***** AT MAX BOXING [STEVE KIM]OSCAR'S PEOPLE DIDN'T SAY A ****ING THING ABOUT HAND WRAPS BUT VARGAS AND HOPKINS UGLY ASS DO.**** OUT OF HERE,AND AS FOR THE PRICK WHO BROUGHT IT UP READ THIS IF YOU CONSIDER YOU'RE SELF AN UNBIASED OBSERVER. http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/hands.html

[Rhys79]

Does anybody have the link to Mosley-Vargas, I didn't see it. I did see the Cotto Judah fight, however, I feel that Zab gave cotto his toughest test yet. Judah is still packed with talent, and with a couple wins under his belt, will challenge the elite again.

[Rane-Ex54]

trindad may have shot vargas, but i think te vargas that fought trinidad wasnt at hi best, his defense was awful that night but maybe cus tito killed him with the first left hook and basicaly vargas could never come back.......

judah is overrated and threw like 4 punches, at least vargas was fighting like he had too, and at a pretty high level too....i think the vargas that fought mosley the frst time was still very dangerous...

I disagree a lil, he came back really strong verse tito in the middle rounds. I believe seeing that tito could take his best though and then get knocked out effected him tremendously. Thats why i think he took steriods verse ODLH, he prob thought he needed um....didn't seem to help. haha