Taylors state of mind

[77Ritchie77]

did pavlik wake up jermain taylor or did he expose him?
is jermain taylor chomping at the bit to get back into the gym hoping to destroy kelly pavlik, or is he just trying to get a big payday?
i personally think he ahs too much pride to ever reject a rematch clause even if he was scared. however i dont think taylor is one bit scared of pavlik, just realizes hes the best fighter out there besides perhaps himself and calzaghe (arguably)

[Energy]

did pavlik wake up jermain taylor or did he expose him?
is jermain taylor chomping at the bit to get back into the gym hoping to destroy kelly pavlik, or is he just trying to get a big payday?
i personally think he ahs too much pride to ever reject a rematch clause even if he was scared. however i dont think taylor is one bit scared of pavlik, just realizes hes the best fighter out there besides perhaps himself and calzaghe (arguably)

Good question.
It could be either, you can't really say for sure.
My guess would be Taylor is a little intimidated by Pavlik. He showed that in the 1st round in their fight, starting off with a huge right hand, wasting a lot of unnecessary energy waste and being very hyperactive, all signs of some kind of defense mechanism associated with fear. Pavlik didn't just knock him out physically, he hurt him mentally.

[Kobe Bryant]

He has to play this right. Honestly if I were in charge of him I would never put him back in the ring with Kelly I would just move on. I would move him up to 168 or wherever he's comfortable.

[Energy]

He has to play this right. Honestly if I were in charge of him I would never put him back in the ring with Kelly I would just move on. I would move him up to 168 or wherever he's comfortable.

Well Taylor probably has something to prove himself.
If you lost at something you were really good at, wouldn't you want another chance?

[NeXt In Line]

Honestly, I think Jermain is straight up pissed off right now. Everybody was against him, even in his hometown, and once he lost to Kelly Pavlik, everybody said "Jermain is done. He's not hungry, he lacks motivation."

I think Jermain comes out, calm, cool and collect during the press tour and training camps for this because he's going to be focused as hell. He's pissed off right now, he was beforehand, but now more than ever he's quite intent on proving himself again.

[Kobe Bryant]

Well Taylor probably has something to prove himself.
If you lost at something you were really good at, wouldn't you want another chance?

I mean he had his chance. Pavlik took the best of Taylor got up and whooped his ass. At a certain point you need to know when someone has your number. Sure it's courageous but, even though I don't like Jermaine, I don't want to see him get KOed again.

[phallus]

Good question.
It could be either, you can't really say for sure.
My guess would be Taylor is a little intimidated by Pavlik. He showed that in the 1st round in their fight, starting off with a huge right hand, wasting a lot of unnecessary energy waste and being very hyperactive, all signs of some kind of defense mechanism associated with fear. Pavlik didn't just knock him out physically, he hurt him mentally.

He has to play this right. Honestly if I were in charge of him I would never put him back in the ring with Kelly I would just move on. I would move him up to 168 or wherever he's comfortable.

I mean he had his chance. Pavlik took the best of Taylor got up and whooped his ass. At a certain point you need to know when someone has your number. Sure it's courageous but, even though I don't like Jermaine, I don't want to see him get KOed again.

two losses to pavlik will destroy taylor's confidence

[grayfist]

I remember the advice given to kids who fall off or crash bikes:"Get right back on it!"

I dunno that the same thing works for boxing. Going back to the game's history doesn't help one arrive at a definitive conclusion. There have been many fighters who never recovered from a devastating loss, there have been those who did just as well as they did and those who did even better.

Barrera lost twice to Junior Jones, but then, moved on to heights greater than Jones (for whatever reason) ever achieved.

Lewis was stopped by RAchman, but came back 7 months later to stop Rachman. Earlier, Lewis was sent to bed by McCall in two and it took close to three years for the twain to meet again and for Lewis to avenge that defeat.

Big George Foreman carried the emotional burden of that defeat in the hands of Ali for decades before re-inventing himself and, then made himself the oldest man to win a heavyweight crown.

Frazier remained competitive for a few more years after that first devastating loss in two rounds to Foreman in Jamaica. Joe was still so "smokin'" that he figured in two fights with Ali, including the Thrilla in Manila--considered by quite a number of people as among the top ten best fights in history--along with victories over Joe Bugner, Jerry Quarry and Jimmy Ellis.

I dunno... I think, it's a case-to-case...I believe it varies from person to person on how long one recovers; if one recovers at all.

[shawn_]

Forget confidence, another fight with Pavlik will end Taylors prime, period.

Taylor does not need absorb that kind of punishment again. Its like Chavez v Taylor all over again.

Jermain, you proved yourself as a man, you stood in their with Kelly, but please don't do it again, it will end your career.

[shawn_]

I remember the advice given to kids who fall off or crash bikes:"Get right back on it!"

I dunno that the same thing works for boxing. Going back to the game's history doesn't help one arrive at a definitive conclusion. There have been many fighters who never recovered from a devastating loss, there have been those who did just as well as they did and those who did even better.

Barrera lost twice to Junior Jones, but then, moved on to heights greater than Jones (for whatever reason) ever achieved.

Lewis was stopped by RAchman, but came back 7 months later to stop Rachman. Earlier, Lewis was sent to bed by McCall in two and it took close to three years for the twain to meet again and for Lewis to avenge that defeat.

Big George Foreman carried the emotional burden of that defeat in the hands of Ali for decades before re-inventing himself and, then made himself the oldest man to win a heavyweight crown.

Frazier remained competitive for a few more years after that first devastating loss in two rounds to Foreman in Jamaica. Joe was still so "smokin'" that he figured in two fights with Ali, including the Thrilla in Manila--considered by quite a number of people as among the top ten best fights in history--along with victories over Joe Bugner, Jerry Quarry and Jimmy Ellis.

I dunno... I think, it's a case-to-case...I believe it varies from person to person on how long one recovers; if one recovers at all.

There is a difference between getting knocked out, and getting broken down for 7 rounds, then knocked out.