When is Twan Diaz gonna step his game up?

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  • -Hyperion-
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    #31
    Originally posted by C-Drone
    By 24, the only name(s) that Manny had faced was a FADED Agapito Sanchez and and at the tail end of 24, he fought Marco Antonio Barrera. No one else, that was important. Unless, you count important as the other times he lost before 24, both by KO in the 3rd round. One was a lucky shot/fluke, the other I have yet to see video of. He started his career at 106 only to move UP to 126.

    In contrast.. At this point in his career, Juan Diaz has moved DOWN, in weight, something that is just as admirable as moving up, and in some ways, takes a bit more dedication. He started at 142, and is at 135, where he is undefeated and has unified the lightweight titles, for the most part. Holding on to the majority of them. (3 of 5). He's beaten Jose Miguel Cotto, Acelino Freitas and Julio Diaz. His last two fights have been TKO victories, and that was in championship fights. He, unlike Manny, has not been knocked down, let a lone out.

    In comparison, at the least, they both had about the same in terms of accomplishments.

    By the way, Juan has called out Pacman twice now, just for the record.
    juan has been kocked down...................and theres only 4 major belts(unless you are counting the ring...)

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      #32
      Originally posted by -Hyperion-
      juan has been kocked down...................and theres only 4 major belts(unless you are counting the ring...)
      I didn't hear anything about him getting down, if so.. I take that statement back. Regardless, I do count the Ring title, because it's the only title I really give a **** about.

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        #33
        Originally posted by C-Drone
        I didn't hear anything about him getting down, if so.. I take that statement back. Regardless, I do count the Ring title, because it's the only title I really give a **** about.
        just wanted to tell you before that clown masgagomexi uses that as his scapegoat...

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          #34
          Originally posted by C-Drone
          By 24, the only name(s) that Manny had faced was a FADED Agapito Sanchez and and at the tail end of 24, he fought Marco Antonio Barrera. No one else, that was important. Unless, you count important as the other times he lost before 24, both by KO in the 3rd round. One was a lucky shot/fluke, the other I have yet to see video of. He started his career at 106 only to move UP to 126.

          In contrast.. At this point in his career, Juan Diaz has moved DOWN, in weight, something that is just as admirable as moving up, and in some ways, takes a bit more dedication. He started at 142, and is at 135, where he is undefeated and has unified the lightweight titles, for the most part. Holding on to the majority of them. (3 of 5). He's beaten Jose Miguel Cotto, Acelino Freitas and Julio Diaz. His last two fights have been TKO victories, and that was in championship fights. He, unlike Manny, has not been knocked down, let a lone out.

          In comparison, at the least, they both had about the same in terms of accomplishments.

          By the way, Juan has called out Pacman twice now, just for the record.
          please buddy, twan has never fought out of 135lbs. he may have weighed more than 135 on fight night, but he has always fought at lightweight(fact), no more, no less.

          You say twan, has fought Jose Cotto(lmao, that's like saying Soto has fought B. Pacquiao), Freitas and Diaz(haha). At the time PAC fought MAB, was there anyone better than MAB at 126lbs?

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            #35
            Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
            please buddy, twan has never fought out of 135lbs. he may have weighed more than 135 on fight night, but he has always fought at lightweight(fact), no more, no less.

            You say twan, has fought Jose Cotto(lmao, that's like saying Soto has fought B. Pacquiao), Freitas and Diaz(haha). At the time PAC fought MAB, was there anyone better than MAB at 126lbs?
            Morales had just beat MAB........(MAB got a gift...)

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              #36
              Originally posted by -Hyperion-
              Morales had just beat MAB........(MAB got a gift...)
              I disagree that he got a gift, but Erik Morales, was closer to his prime.. and when they fought the first time, I remember Manny losing.. so......

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                #37
                Originally posted by C-Drone
                I disagree that he got a gift, but Erik Morales, was closer to his prime.. and when they fought the first time, I remember Manny losing.. so......
                Oh geez, the "past crime excuse" rears its ugly head again. You don't hear PAC fans b*tching about the huge cut PAC suffered, right? Could that have benefited EM during the fight? think about it, EM beat a one-eyed guy(haha)

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
                  Oh geez, the "past crime excuse" rears its ugly head again. You don't hear PAC fans b*tching about the huge cut PAC suffered, right? Could that have benefited EM during the fight? think about it, EM beat a one-eyed guy(haha)
                  did the weight drain affect Morales in the II & III fight? DONT THINK ABOUT IT, YES.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
                      Outside of $$$$, what does Twan get out of fighting a guy moving up a weightclass, compared to fighting the best at 135lbs(Casa), or moving up a weightclass fighting the likes Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, P. Williams. Surely 2 out of the 4 fighters I mentioned can bring in the same amount of $$$$ for Twan.

                      Should PAC start calling out guys from 126lbs on down? Would that get respect? No.
                      First off Pac is doing exactly what Jaun wants to do if not worse.He fought larios who came up from 122 two divisions south.He fought Solis who came up from 126.So why don't you criticize him too?And Pac is not smaller than Diaz.If something he is bigger.He cam in weighing 144 on fight night for the Barrera fight and 1 week later Diaz came in at 142 for the Julio fight on fight night.So tell me how the hell is Pac smaller?He's the one who said he could beat Diaz after Diaz dominated his countryman Suico.And even after he beat barrera II,Roach and him said that he was going to move up.So what happened?Oh and another thing just cuz his carreer is not going exactly the same way as Pac's gives you a reason to talk **** about him?So tell me something.Is Salvador Sanchez to you better than Pac cuz at a younger age than when Pac fought Barrera ,he already had beatten two H.O.F in Nelson and Gomez?Cuz acording to your criteria he is.Oh and one more thing,why do you call him twan?

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