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  • Orange Sneakers
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    Chris Eubanks dissing Calzaghe, Collins, and Roy Jones to an extent

    On whether he'd be a boxer if he had his time over.

    "As to whether I would become a boxer if I had my life to live over again, it would be a question of choice.

    "I myself hadn't a choice. I had it tough, very tough, and it's all in my book.

    "I was once part of a professional gang of thieves who made thousands of pounds from daily crime sprees. I was making £180 a day when the average wage was £60 a week.

    "The gangs were so well off we even hired taxis to shoplifting jobs.

    "If there was an easier way to make money, I would have done it but there wasn't. I had no choice. The instinct is to survive.

    "Maybe if I'd had a choice, I might not have become a boxer. Who knows?

    "But the truth is I fell in love with boxing and never fell out of love with the art of boxing."


    On biting an opponent.

    "Yes that's true. When I was an amateur I bit someone and I have been ashamed of that ever since.

    "But it taught me to be a man - to lose with your head held high and your eyes wide open, with the grace of an adult and not like a child.

    "If you're taking a beating, stay there and take it. Even if you are projecting your tiredness, it's nothing compared to turning your back or quitting."


    On boxing being a 'mug's game'.

    "It is noble to box but it's a fact that 99.9 per cent of boxers get disfigured, used, abused, manipulated and ultimately discarded.

    "Yet 100 per cent of boxers are the single most important element of any fight they compete in. They are the nucleus.

    "The problem is that promoters and managers will have the boxer believe that he is working for them because they pull the strings in the fight business. This is totally wrong.

    "The boxer employs the promoters and managers. He is their boss because without the boxer there would be no fight business.

    "I've always been outspoken and still am. It's my nature. I tell it as it is.

    "When I was being particularly outspoken, especially in the earlier days before I was champion, my trainer used to say, 'Be careful, Chris, if you talk, they will have you bumped off.'

    "By 'bumped off', he meant that arrangements would be made so that I would lose a bout.

    "So, am I saying that some fights are fixed? Absolutely. If you ask for too much money or you are behaving like a prima donna, they will have you 'bumped off.'

    "Judges can be indirectly influenced by nice hotel rooms, champagne, women, backhanders and the like.

    "The fact is that if you suspect arrangements have been made against you, then you simply have to knock the man out before the end of the fight."


    On Steve Collins cheating.

    "I was there to win by way of art and points but he made me dislike him immensely so I lost my focus.

    "When someone makes you dislike them immensely they have done the job.

    "It wasn't just below the belt. It lost me my first professional fight and first fight in 10 years and three days, since I bit my opponent in the Golden Gloves.

    "Other people I fought tried to do that, but none succeeded - none brought racial slur into it.

    "Since that day I lost in the Golden Gloves I promised myself I'd always win or lose with integrity. Infact, integrity became the cornerstone of my life.

    "I don't know how Steve Collins could win like he did. It was the ultimate example of lacking integrity to win.

    (He said he was stunned when Collins questioned his loyalty to his African roots before their clash in Millstreet)

    "Steve Collins said to me 'you talk like an Englishman, you wear a monocle like an Englishman and carry a cane like an Englishman. I'm Irish and I have done lots for the Irish people.

    "What have you done for the African people?'

    "Collins lacked ability and personality and talent but he made up for it tenfold with strength of character.

    "No one was clever enough to get inside my head but Steve did.

    "He struck a chord in me. I've heard fighters talking about my mother and saying worse things but they were hollow.

    "He wasn't being racist but he aroused the racist who was listening to the conversation.

    "This was the business of one-upmanship. I was always the calmest person in the arena but Steve got to me.

    "I believe he managed to question my whole identity when he came out with the statement.

    "I was trying to dispel all that rubbish. He put the onus on me to answer that question.

    "It was a very powerful question. He lit that fire and walked away. He went to the core of what I have to deal with in regards to being a black man in Britain.

    "I am a descendant of a slave. I don't see colour in people. I see good people and bad people. I've been to Africa and I've done charity work. I live here in the United Kingdom. I do charity work here

    "He was playing on the way I dressed and the way I spoke the Queen's English and the affections I carry.

    "Steve was very emotionally intelligent but in a combative way. I would never use tactics like that."


    On Collins being the better man in their return.

    "The second fight six months later, again in Cork, was much different even though I lost again.

    "He broke me mentally with a maniacal resolve on the night - having seemed, perhaps purposefully, somewhat uncertain in press conferences - rather than a form of racism before the night and beat me fairly and squarely on points, unlike his underhand first victory over me.

    "I just could not wrestle the crown away from him.

    "Steve was a good fighter and I hope we are still good friends."


    On Floyd Mayweather.

    "People keep asking me about this kid. He's at the stage of his career now as I was when I was preparing to fight Henry Wharton.

    "The Sky deal was the big contract I'd been working for all those years in the gym.

    "It was a dream to perform and have a platform in the homeland of my hero Nelson Mandela.

    "Wharton was orthodox - he wasn't southpaw, he was a straight ahead slugger and he was strong.

    "I saw it as the perfect opportunity to showcase everything I'd learned in the gym over the years.

    "But young Hatton is more dynamic than Wharton. He has good reflexes and very good technique with the body shots. He's known to set a ferocious pace.

    "This is a great opportunity for Mayweather to let everything go because he could lose and that would allow him to come back and acquire greatness!"
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  • Orange Sneakers
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    On recent reported comments by Joe Calzaghe (saying "all I can say is that when you look at his record, apart from Steve Collins and Nigel Benn, I don't know how many big names he fought. He handpicked a lot of his opponents and struggled with them") put to him.

    "All I will say is that there are two types of people: those who ask and those who go out and get. I was the latter.

    "When I was a child, stealing crisps and sweets became my hobby.

    "They said I was a bully at school, I wasn't a bully - I was a protector.

    "If I felt a bigger kid was picking on a smaller kid, my impulse or methodology would be 'hit first, ask questions later.' I needed to put the situation right and achieve my goal, namely dispelling incorrectness in this case, asap.

    "Wherever I go in the world, I'm confronted with pigeon poses. You get used to it after more than 15 years, but it's still fun.

    "As for big names, whatever that's worth, Gary Stretch used to take up more tabloid space in a week than Calzaghe does in a year - whatever that's worth.

    "My five-month rivalry with Michael Watson in the summer of 1991 took up more tabloid space than boxing altogether in the last five years!

    "The Rocchigiani fight sold-out 10,000 tickets in Europe in one day.

    "A TV company agreed to pay me £10million in one year due to effort, influence, substance, sinew, dedication, consistency, absorbance, release, application, flavour.

    "Maybe that sum of money doesn't sound a lot in today's boxing world, I don't know, but consider, say, the average wage was perhaps three or four times less back then.

    "They knew I would sell dishes but it was also a matter of earning the shot on merit.

    "I've already fought Joe. I don't want to fight him again.

    "We won't know if he's a great fighter until he loses, and I don't know if he can become a legend because I don't know if there are any fighters left he wouldn't be favored to beat or wouldn't be beating.

    "I hope he can. I hope he can.

    "When I came to Britain to box in the late 80s, I was taking fights on days or even hours notice and wanted to be fighting monthly or even weekly.

    "I wanted rankings, belts, sponsors, security, contracts - everything.

    "I was absolutely relentless. I trained through injury and illness and never cancelled a fight.

    "The Monday after a world title defence I'd be back in the gym working on mistakes I'd made in the fight, awaiting the next contender to study and train for.

    "If a small name, big risk boxer like Michael Nunn, James Toney or Roy Jones was my mandatory contender, I would not have dodged them.

    "Sure, I wasn't going to take a fight I only had a 50 per cent chance of winning unless I had to or until I had some money banked.

    "But I would never have dodged, because in doing so I'd have lost my respect, my standing and my honour.

    "For what it's worth, it took a £1million cheque being waved in front of Nigel Benn's face to get any middleweight in the world in the ring with me in 1990.

    "I'm sure Calzaghe respects me and I respect him. He's proved himself time and again, like the time he was stuck down on the canvas - and I don't think he'd been down before - and got up and took the guy out in the same round, if I'm not mistaken.

    "That showed a warrior instinct - there's a potential potential right there that he could become a great legend.

    "You know, it was the same when I was 17 to 19 - I trained myself into the ground seven days a week and was willing to fight at any notice against anyone, any time, any way and anywhere. I only took up boxing at 16 and a half.

    "The idea was to win titles and make money - I was relentless."


    On weight-training.

    "Boxing and weights never go together - it tightens you up. Boxing is about being loose and relaxed.

    "Boxing for me is about learning how to side-step, how to bob and weave, it's not about lifting weights or doing push-ups."


    On accused of being 'garbage' (as a boxer).

    "I have the dignity to not respond but choose not to use it in this instance.

    "I could say what troubled me was the stance of a southpaw and the ferocity of a Nigel Benn, how outside of those only something special could beat me physically.

    "I could say I looked sensational for five or six rounds in the first Watson and Thornton bouts before taking my foot off the gas - better than McCallum, Toney and Jones did - and sensational for full 12 in the Wharton bout.

    "That's polar opposite to garbage. But I won't say these things because one doesn't like to talk in subjective manner or matter."


    On Calzaghe's opposition.

    "You're asking me about this guy's opposition - the bits I've seen over the years, the guy opposite Calzaghe has looked ordinary at best.

    "That's not Joe's fault. Boxing isn't the same sport anymore and the 80s conveyor belt is long gone.

    "I watched the guy with the tattoo's (Mikkel Kessler) when I was in Las Vegas in April, and he's ordinary.

    "He can't fight going back or counter punch and Joe's game is to slug it out with his particularly fast hands.

    "If you consciously know range and angles you shouldn't have a problem with this guy (Kessler), either.

    "When I think I beat four world top ten Americans in 10 months, it's interesting. And when I think how much the press were laying into me for fighting a 35 year old, that's interesting, too.

    "But he had fast hands and knew all the tricks of the trade, he was only stopped by Herol Graham via a cut eye and only lost his world title via a body shot.

    "It just goes to show that age is only a number. Like when Michael Watson fought Mike McCallum, he went in there with the attitude of 'He's 34, I'm 24, I'll beat him on youth.'

    "Otherwise, why would he have stood in front of him like he did? Is it because he was one-dimensional and didn't know how to do anything else, before feeding off envy and malice to be phenomenal for our second fight?

    "Anyway, Joe Calzaghe proves that age is just a number and that boxing is still alive and kicking, and deserves credit."


    On boxing for the homeless.

    "I've just turned 26 and I'm 35-0, millions in the bank, double world champion, the most successful boxer since Sugar Ray Leonard and Mike Tyson, by far.

    "Why am I getting up before everyone else to run eight miles? Why?

    "The American promoter Bob Arum has stated he won't let his fighters Michael Nunn and James Toney in the ring with me - something about me having too much of an awkward style. Nigel Benn - by far the hardest puncher I've ever come across - has stated he won't fight me unless he's paid £1.65million.

    "So why get up and run? It was to feed homeless.

    "When I left London in 1982, I don't remember seeing homeless people on the streets.

    "When I came back to Brighton in 1988 they seemed to be everywhere. London was worse, of course - doorways, alleys, the Embankment, all over.

    "I would run past the shelters near Brighton beach or the side streets protected from the elements and see these people, huddled up and without hope.

    "It was like an invisible population, just lying there. Almost always, when I went back later in the day, these people had gone, like a vision of dejection passing through.

    "I'd be doing roadwork with tears in my eyes. A few years later and my St. Annes Court project was well under way - I paid for the land and the building, 69 studio flats in a space which might have seen 150 units in London.

    "The media impact was almost nothing. Now, when I had said boxing was a 'mug's game', there was absolute media frenzy.

    "I could show you folders full of argument, coverage, criticism and rhetoric, at the time of, and since, that statement.

    "For my homeless project? Two sheets of ink coverage, maximium."
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    • Orange Sneakers
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      On being 'simply the best'.

      "I was the best, just not the best of the best of the best. Nunn was the best, Toney was the best, Jones was the best. It works both ways. They weren't the best of the best of the best because they didn't beat me.

      "When fight fans ask me why I didn't fight the very best Americans in the world I say 'they were champions in their own right, just like I was'."


      On being 'the man'.

      "Oh, I'm still the man. I always said I was the man, from since 1990.

      "20 world championship fights in four years and four months, which had never been done and never will be done again.

      "I was the one who produced the most perfect knockouts, the one who was the most sought-after, the one who had the biggest platform, (and was) even involved in the best fights.

      "As far as middleweights and super-middleweights, I am the man. And I won't accept any argument against that basic fact!"


      On fighters making promoters.

      "Who was the No.1 UK boxing promoter between 1990 and 1995? It was Barry Hearn. Why? Because he promoted Chris Eubank.

      "The fighter makes the promoter, not the other way round. Don King was only as good as he was because he had Tyson and Ali.

      "The promoters pray that a national and ethnic fighter like Oscar De La Hoya props up, so they can use bribery and the such to prevent themselves from nothingness.

      "I became the biggest name and highest paid fighter in the world, other than heavyweights, and Barry Hearn became the kingpin. He was the best promoter."


      On how he'd like to be remembered in boxing.

      "As a warrior of integrity through all of the 392 professional rounds I contested.

      "'That Eubank always strutted when he was winning, let's see what he's made of now. How did he take defeat? With dignity? Like a man? Yes. Then he is the complete package.'

      "I was never a pretender."


      Quickfire Questions

      First boxing memory?

      The Rumble in The Jungle on our old black-and-white TV.

      First boxing experience?

      In the Peckham ABC against a kid called Matthew. There were no gumshields and all my teeth were chipped - I hated it.

      I didn't box again until I was 16 in New York, my brothers were boxers so I followed in their footsteps - I loved it because it was like I was my own boss.

      Claim to fame before fame?

      My brother Peter beating Barry McGuigan.

      Favourite fighters growing up?

      Thomas Hearns, Pernell Whitaker. Pernell was poetic.

      Perhaps unconsciously Bruce Lee in watching 'Enter The Dragon' in about 1974 having bunked into a movie theatre in Kingsland High Street, Stoke Newington. The little bit I saw that time maybe unconsciously he taught me to be an original and to go with my own artistic license.

      Most embarrassing moment?

      Years ago, I did a one-armed jump over a barrier to get on to the subway train. The strap of my rucksack got caught on the barrier and I fell on my back.

      Pinnacle of career?

      Beating Nigel Benn for the world championship in 1990 - it felt like the world was my oyster.

      It would have been the Sky TV deal had I completed it - it felt like I had the keys to the sweet factory!
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        "I watched the guy with the tattoo's (Mikkel Kessler) when I was in Las Vegas in April, and he's ordinary
        I find it amusing that he refers to Kessler as the guy with the tattoo's;it shows how littel Eubank know`s about Kessler
        it`s difficult to be WBA-WBC champ if you just are an ordinary fighter!!
        and
        Eubank is a known-Calzaghe-ball-sucker,trying to justify his own loss

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        • Orange Sneakers
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          #5
          Whenever Eubank has ever been asked about Calzaghe in the past he's given a cold response. So no, he's not a Calzaghe ball-licker, quite the opposite

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            #6
            Of all the things Eubank says, jangayorg picks out the remark on Kessler.

            And yes, that's how a lot of people feel about Kessler. In two weeks it might just be proved.

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            • Orange Sneakers
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              #7
              To me, Calzaghe really doesn't stand much chance in this Kessler fight

              He's never looked good at all against stand-up boxers (but has always looked excellent against come-forward fighters)

              Kessler is by far the best and most textbook stand-up boxer he's come across in his entire life. Calzaghe will not win.

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              • sonofisis
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                #8
                Chris Eubank showed major class in that interview and didn't diss Joe at all, even though the classless Joe dissed him. Excellent read btw..

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                • moofo
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                  #9
                  I never liked Eubank.
                  Good fighter no doubt.
                  He was a strong fighter but after he damaged Watson he never got his killer instinct back.
                  And I was gutted he beat Nigel.

                  In his personal life he proved himself to be a complete **** as well.
                  If you get chance dig out the documentary of him.
                  At home with the Eubanks I think it was called.
                  What a tit.

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                  • Orange Sneakers
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                    #10
                    Eubank has many mental illnesses, it's not his fault he's a complete nutjob

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