The Ring mandatory

[Fox McCloud]

The answer to the biggest flaw in The Ring's policy fell into my lap over the weekend. There are no mandatory challengers for The Ring champion... which is okay for the most part, because some of the mandatories for the ABC belts just completely ****ing suck.

However, I think if #1 beats #2 or vice versa in a division with a champion, then they should be the mandatory for The Ring champion. If the fight isn't made or whatever, then The Ring champion should be stripped, and they should reorder the rankings so there is no champion anymore. The belt would still have to be earned the same way it would had there been no champion.

The situation that came to mind was that Juan Diaz beat Julio Diaz, so he should have the contractual right to fight Joel Casamayor for The Ring belt.

[-Hyperion-]

yeah, that would solve the problem of guys like bernard hopkins hugging the title even though he fights once a year and has noplans to fight a legitimate top lhw contender...

[Fox McCloud]

yeah, that would solve the problem of guys like bernard hopkins hugging the title even though he fights once a year and has noplans to fight a legitimate top lhw contender...

Erdei would have to fight Woods to force it though.

I also think it should be on the challengers to do the work necessary to force the fight.

[MJ406]

The Ring not having mandatories isn't the only flaw IMO

its a title held by a magazine. lol. granted they have credibility and didn't come out of no where (been around since 1922)

but still .. why not get ESPN and Sports Illustrated into the picture and have an Undisputed Magazine Champion

seriously ... you have Max Kellerman interviewing Juan Diaz post Freitas fight (if you forgot the interview) and all he can tell him is ..

"David Diaz is defending a meaningless belt (WBC).. but Joel Casamayor is THE lightweight champion of the world."

wait a second .. didn't Joel Casamayor become THE 135 pound champ because he beat Diego Corrales for one of those "meaningless belts" the WBC which he not longer has.

and your telling me .. Casamayor is the man at 135 .. because some effin magazine has him as its champ.

Juan went on to say beat all the champs .. and have all 4 belts ... Kellerman countered with the fact that Casamayor was the man.

sure the sanctioning orgs aren't even close to perfect

but a Magazine having a "recognised champion" is marketing genius

and sure talk about bias with the Alphabet Orgs. but your kidding yourself if you don't think Magazines have bias.

then again everyone has a bias .. so its kinda a moot point.

[Azteca]

.....lol.

You're establishing in this post that you haven't been a huge fan of boxing for a while, dude.

[Fox McCloud]

.....lol.

You're establishing in this post that you haven't been a huge fan of boxing for a while, dude.

I've publically admitted that I am fairly new to the sport and am trying to learn about it still.

[THe TRiNiTY]

That actually goes against the VERY idea of The Ring title. Where you can and should only be able to lose your title in the ring, where you should of had to earn it.

[Fox McCloud]

That actually goes against the VERY idea of The Ring title. Where you can and should only be able to lose your title in the ring, where you should of had to earn it.

I think that is odd that they give other fighters no possible way to earn a shot at The Ring title. I mean, it's not like this scenario gives fighters a million different ways to be able to fight The Ring champion, it is only one way, and that is if #1 beats #2 or #2 beats #1, then they get the automatic shot. If that happens then you have two fighters who have separated themselves from the rest of the division, so they should be rewarded for it.

[THe TRiNiTY]

The Ring not having mandatories isn't the only flaw IMO

its a title held by a magazine. lol. granted they have credibility and didn't come out of no where (been around since 1922)

but still .. why not get ESPN and Sports Illustrated into the picture and have an Undisputed Magazine Champion

seriously ... you have Max Kellerman interviewing Juan Diaz post Freitas fight (if you forgot the interview) and all he can tell him is ..

"David Diaz is defending a meaningless belt (WBC).. but Joel Casamayor is THE lightweight champion of the world."

wait a second .. didn't Joel Casamayor become THE 135 pound champ because he beat Diego Corrales for one of those "meaningless belts" the WBC which he not longer has.

and your telling me .. Casamayor is the man at 135 .. because some effin magazine has him as its champ.

Juan went on to say beat all the champs .. and have all 4 belts ... Kellerman countered with the fact that Casamayor was the man.

sure the sanctioning orgs aren't even close to perfect

but a Magazine having a "recognised champion" is marketing genius

and sure talk about bias with the Alphabet Orgs. but your kidding yourself if you don't think Magazines have bias.

then again everyone has a bias .. so its kinda a moot point.

There's no real difference between an "organized body" and a magaizne, except the magazine doesn't have financial insentives from the fights, themselves. That'd be a good thing.

[squealpiggy]

The Ring title can only be won or lost in the ring, that's the main point. The dirty business of finding challengers can be done by the sanctioning bodies.

The trouble is that as soon as you start stripping fighters for not facing an arbitrarily chosen opponent, you become open to bribary, threats and corruption. Hey my guy should get a title shot. Here's a hundred grand that proves it. Can't do that? OK how about fifty grand to make my guy third and get an eliminator?

Rankings for sale nearly broguht boxing down, and it still happens today. The Ring's policy is the right one to have.