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  • RAESAAD
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    #51
    Originally posted by Jermain
    Good to see a great boxing debate. I guess you could say I feel sick over what happened but any real boxing fan knows it is the great fighters who come back. We're in talks for a rematch November 08. I'm gonna have one maybe two fights before the rematch. Trust me, you will see a new Jermain Taylor.


    Originally posted by Jermain
    Anyone who saw the match knows I was winning on points. It will be the same again, until I put Kelly down for good round 2.
    You are not Jermain Taylor......

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    • Jermain
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      #52
      was talkin to a dude here yesterday afternoon I wanted to know how to up a picture like you guy's have. And yes It is me, we laughin here. Mean how do you prove you who you say you are.

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      • ßringer
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        #53
        I'm the real Jermain Taylor. I just took this pic of myself to prove it.

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        • EliteSoldier
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          #54
          Originally posted by The_Bringer
          In order for Taylor to have been beating Pavlik "easily" you would have had to given Taylor either round 1, or round 3, 2 rounds Pavlik clearly won.

          Taylor was winning when the fight was stopped, he was up by one point on my scorecard for the knockdown. 2 points at the very highest, anyone who gave him a higher than 2 point lead wasn't paying attention to the punches Pavlik was blocking.
          You had taylor up? After the fight was over Taylor said that he felt like he was losing on the score cards and that the judges had it wrong.

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          • The Surgeon
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            #55
            Originally posted by EliteSoldier
            You had taylor up? After the fight was over Taylor said that he felt like he was losing on the score cards and that the judges had it wrong.
            I had him a point up 2. JT seems 2 lack confidence in his work in the ring, after the Winky fight he seemed HAPPY with the draw in a CLOSE fight that most champs would have been ADAMENT they won - i had him sneaking that fight by a point actually!

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            • ßringer
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              #56
              Originally posted by EliteSoldier
              You had taylor up? After the fight was over Taylor said that he felt like he was losing on the score cards and that the judges had it wrong.
              Yup, I'm non biased and I saw Taylor's handspeed getting a 1-2 point lead over Kelly with the knockdown. Just because I prefer Pavlik to Taylor doesn't mean I'm going to say Pavlik was murdering him. It was a close fight.

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              • Don Johnson
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                #57
                Originally posted by The_Bringer
                Yup, I'm non biased and I saw Taylor's handspeed getting a 1-2 point lead over Kelly with the knockdown. Just because I prefer Pavlik to Taylor doesn't mean I'm going to say Pavlik was murdering him. It was a close fight.
                Don't you agree his hand speed and stamina is nowhere near as good as it was back when he fought B-Hop? He seemed so slow that night, only slightly quicker than Pavlik.
                Last edited by Don Johnson; 10-15-2007, 05:38 PM. Reason: Spelling errors

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                • EliteSoldier
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The_Bringer
                  Yup, I'm non biased and I saw Taylor's handspeed getting a 1-2 point lead over Kelly with the knockdown. Just because I prefer Pavlik to Taylor doesn't mean I'm going to say Pavlik was murdering him. It was a close fight.
                  I'm just telling you what Taylor said after the fight. Did you see the interviews right after the fight? Where Taylor gave Kelly his props and was a gentleman... So, what you're basically saying is that Taylor gave Kelly too much props, because Taylor felt like Pavlik was ahead. Atleast at that time, maybe after he went home and watched the fight, he had himself winning. I had him winning by points too in some ways, but its just weird that after the fight is over he says some **** like I felt like I was losing on the cards.

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                  • Jermain
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                    #59
                    Hey Soldier. Yes thats exactly what I was trying to say. I told Larry Merchant I was behind on points, but when you're in the ring its a different game. Seeing the tape back now I can see I was ahead maybe 2-3 points.

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                    • ßringer
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by MrUnKnockoutabl
                      Don't you agree his hand speed and stamina is nowhere near as good as it was back when he fought B-Hop? He seemed so slow that night, only slightly quicker than Pavlik.
                      I would say that point is valid.

                      I'm just telling you what Taylor said after the fight. Did you see the interviews right after the fight? Where Taylor gave Kelly his props and was a gentleman... So, what you're basically saying is that Taylor gave Kelly too much props, because Taylor felt like Pavlik was ahead. Atleast at that time, maybe after he went home and watched the fight, he had himself winning. I had him winning by points too in some ways, but its just weird that after the fight is over he says some **** like I felt like I was losing on the cards.
                      Yeah I saw Jermain say he thought he was losing. I think he was just way too cautious and caught up in his emotions though. My take is that he's already pissed off enough people and he didn't want to go on as some ****y ******* who just lost, trying to discredit his opponet. It would only hurt his image even further.

                      Taylor was up but only by a point or two. It was a very close fight and definitely the best Middleweight fight of the past 10+ years IMO.

                      In a rematch taylor will look to box on the outside more, use his jab a bit more and keep Kelly at bay. Kelly will go right for Taylor from the opening bell and he won't get over confident and start taunting Jermain and end up being knocked down like he did in the first fight.

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