The Prime Years of Ricky Hatton

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

if you read my post i'm obviously blaming frank warren. now that hatton has left him he is chasing the bigger fights. his resume is not the best, but he beat all of them. now he has a few mroe fights to chase and he is getting them. what's wrong with that?

so eyah hatton's resume is not the best, but atleast he can say that he's gonna fight a p4p guy. he's done well for a fat person.

An admission that Hatton has a ****ty resume is fine. I accept that. But if you blame Frank Warren, then you gotta know that you open the floodgates for PBF supporters to blame any lapses on Arum. Because post-Arum, PBF got DLH and Hatton. Works both ways.

Given the wealth of competition that I listed in the original post, Hatton's resume stinks. Like a diaper full of Indian food. Warren didn't do him any favors. Miguel Cotto's career advanced MUCH more quickly than hatton's.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Whats so nuts about that prediction?

I think that Baldomir SOUNDLY beats a much smaller Urango. I think DLH knocks out all three (urango/castillo/collazo).

In fact, if you take EVERYBODY else of Floyd's resume, the Oscar win at 154 alone is pretty damn impressive when you think about it objectively.

How many JWW's today can beat Oscar Delahoya?

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An admission that Hatton has a ****ty resume is fine. I accept that. But if you blame Frank Warren, then you gotta know that you open the floodgates for PBF supporters to blame any lapses on Arum. Because post-Arum, PBF got DLH and Hatton. Works both ways.

Given the wealth of competition that I listed in the original post, Hatton's resume stinks. Like a diaper full of Indian food. Warren didn't do him any favors. Miguel Cotto's career advanced MUCH more quickly than hatton's.

i agree pbf hasn't got the best resume maybe due to his promoter too. as p4p king i think he could have had better fights and chased someone like cotto to prove he is the best. hatton has to chase his fights, pbf can demand it. the thing is, hatton wasn't someone who called out people before. now that he is almost his own man, he can. hatton didnt even know who collazo was until he took the fight lol.

both could have better resumes. both have time to concrete their legacy even more so.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

i agree pbf hasn't got the best resume maybe due to his promoter too. as p4p king i think he could have had better fights and chased someone like cotto to prove he is the best. hatton has to chase his fights, pbf can demand it. the thing is, hatton wasn't someone who called out people before. now that he is almost his own man, he can. hatton didnt even know who collazo was until he took the fight lol.

both could have better resumes. both have time to concrete their legacy even more so.

The only thing about Cotto is, we have to remember that he is viewed MUCH differently today than he was a year ago. Last year, there were major questions about his chin, etc. His beatdowns of Quintana and Judah are really what leapfrogged him to respectability. Those have both been in the past 10 months.

Arum has always played a game with his "stable". He doesn't allow them to fight each other, knowing that one of them will be diminished. Notice how he could have EASILY put PBF & margarito together. Or PBF and Cotto. He had no interest in damaging his cash cows.

But as soon as PBF bought out, he starts throwing out "offers" and challenges.

I don't blame him. It is a promoter's job.

[Azteca]

The only thing about Cotto is, we have to remember that he is viewed MUCH differently today than he was a year ago. Last year, there were major questions about his chin, etc. His beatdowns of Quintana and Judah are really what leapfrogged him to respectability. Those have both been in the past 10 months.

Arum has always played a game with his "stable". He doesn't allow them to fight each other, knowing that one of them will be diminished. Notice how he could have EASILY put PBF & margarito together. Or PBF and Cotto. He had no interest in damaging his cash cows.

But as soon as PBF bought out, he starts throwing out "offers" and challenges.

I don't blame him. It is a promoter's job.

Thats simple economics. Of course he isn't going to match up Cotto/Floyd. That's just ******.

I've heard Floyd say in interviews that Cotto was "too green". he was ducking by your twisted logic.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Thats simple economics. Of course he isn't going to match up Cotto/Floyd. That's just ******.

I've heard Floyd say in interviews that Cotto was "too green". he was ducking by your twisted logic.

As I've said, it is the promoter's job. Yes. I agree. It is simple economics.

Floyd was smart in the way that he chased Oscar and Shane FIRST. Those are older guys with a close-in expiration date. PBF would have easily outboxed Cotto at 140. And gotten little credit for it. But now? It is a MUCH bigger fight. So it has all worked out. Take the big money off the table first. The young lions can wait.

I give Hatton credit for declining the Mayweather fight offers previously. He has always said that he wanted three tune-ups before Floyd. He took three tune-ups, and now the fight is happeneing. So I dap Ricky for keeping his word.

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DLH isn't even 35 NOW...lol. Nice try, though. He was 33 when the fight was signed, and fought right after he turned 34. And Oscar is STILL one of the best 154ers out there.

Again, are you saying that hatton's level of opposition is as good as mayweather's?

I never mentioned Hatton.
But you keep slamming his opposition when Floyds resume since 140 has been no better.
You CANNOT seriously believe that his competition has been the hardest can you?
And you don't have to compare it to anyone.
That is what is annoying about you.
You state Floyds resume at 140 147 & 154 like he has conquered all the best in his wake.
It is simply untrue.
Only now is he fighting a prime fighter who is Champ at his weight which is 140.
So in effect Floyd still won't be the man at 140 even if he beats Hatton.
147 yes but not 140.

[Azteca]

As I've said, it is the promoter's job. Yes. I agree. It is simple economics.

Floyd was smart in the way that he chased Oscar and Shane FIRST. Those are older guys with a close-in expiration date. PBF would have easily outboxed Cotto at 140. And gotten little credit for it. But now? It is a MUCH bigger fight. So it has all worked out. Take the big money off the table first. The young lions can wait.

I give Hatton credit for declining the Mayweather fight offers previously. He has always said that he wanted three tune-ups before Floyd. He took three tune-ups, and now the fight is happeneing. So I dap Ricky for keeping his word.

Hey dip****. Read the post again.

By your definition, because Tszyu never called out Floyd he was 'dodging' him. Tszyu has said comments about Floyd being "too small".

Floyd said the exact same comments about Cotto being "too green".

Floyd ducked Cotto.

[Azteca]

I never mentioned Hatton.
But you keep slamming his opposition when Floyds resume since 140 has been no better.
You CANNOT seriously believe that his competition has been the hardest can you?
And you don't have to compare it to anyone.
That is what is annoying about you.
You state Floyds resume at 140 147 & 154 like he has conquered all the best in his wake.
It is simply untrue.
Only now is he fighting a prime fighter who is Champ at his weight which is 140.
So in effect Floyd still won't be the man at 140 even if he beats Hatton.
147 yes but not 140.

And judging by his twisted logic, Floyd ducked Cotto. He called Cotto "too green" in many interviews.

Floyd ducked Cotto.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I never mentioned Hatton.
But you keep slamming his opposition when Floyds resume since 140 has been no better.
You CANNOT seriously believe that his competition has been the hardest can you?
And you don't have to compare it to anyone.
That is what is annoying about you.
You state Floyds resume at 140 147 & 154 like he has conquered all the best in his wake.
It is simply untrue.
Only now is he fighting a prime fighter who is Champ at his weight which is 140.
So in effect Floyd still won't be the man at 140 even if he beats Hatton.
147 yes but not 140.

Floyd has not fought "the best" at 147 or 154.

But you are ignoring the timing aspect. In late 2005/ early 2006, PBF was moving up to 147 to fight Zab Judah. AT THAT TIME, Zab was the undisputed WW champ. The linear and real champ. The RIng mag champ. That is not debatable.

****** Zab lost, and Baldomir became the champ. Now, some people are critical of Floyd's choices at that time. His next two fights were against the current and former WW champs. I'm not so critical about that.

And Oscar was one of the 2 or 3 best at 154. That ain't bad.

MOOFO.....Who SHOULD Floyd have fought instead of Zab?

In my mind, Floyd has some work to do.

1) hatton
2) MOsley/cotto winner
3) One other guy: margarito, williams, cintron, etc. OR a 140 champ

After that, I'm satisfied with his legacy.