Juan vs. Hatton, Cotto, P. Williams, and Floyd

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  • STEELHEAD
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    #21
    its about money. juan calling out pacquiao is $smart. and would be a less dangerous fight than against casamayor imo.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Bogler
      this thread is valid for all you pachaters. why are you turning a blind eye and not just give your opinions? it's true juandiaz-pac is a megafight, but what do you think of juan against the heavier fighters mentioned? jeezzzz just shows how one sided your brains can be.
      Cause they're scared of the truth.

      Personally, I don't think Juan will reach the status that PAC has ever. But Juan, i think is too damn big and with the workrate. It may spell danger for PAC. But when you spin the same question around. They can't seem to answer it head on.

      Listen Mexicans, PAC jumped right in w/ MAB at being the same age as Juan is now. So why can't Juan do the same thing. Juan already has won two world title belts at 135lbs. Isn't it time for bigger, better challenges. Instead of calling out a guy who is smaller. What does that prove?

      If it's about $$$ Hatton, Cotto can bring in PAC figures too. ****, bring the fight to NY MSG w/ Cotto. Hatton in the U.K. AND FLOYD IN VEGAS!

      What does fighting a smaller guy do for one's legacy, albeit that small guy will go down as an all-time great.

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        #23
        Originally posted by steelhead
        its about money. juan calling out pacquiao is $smart. and would be a less dangerous fight than against casamayor imo.
        No, it's not being smart, it's being cheap, its wanting it easy. PAC is about as ambitious a fighter we'll know. The guy simply reaches for the skies and it could prove dangerous if he keeps movin' up. PAC already has cemented his legacy. If you go look at boxing history, you will not too many guys from the lower weights with what PAC has done. Hell, Finito Lopez didn't have the balls to even bother moving 1 lb up.

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          #24
          Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
          No, it's not being smart, it's being cheap, its wanting it easy. PAC is about as ambitious a fighter we'll know. The guy simply reaches for the skies and it could prove dangerous if he keeps movin' up. PAC already has cemented his legacy. If you go look at boxing history, you will not too many guys from the lower weights with what PAC has done. Hell, Finito Lopez didn't have the balls to even bother moving 1 lb up.
          Dude,you're crazy.Once you're in the position to decide whether you want ex. 4million for fighting a named fighter,or 7 million fighting an exciting known fighter which wont really mean nothing,then you come and holla at me.

          Most ppl forget that boxing is a job and a business.One hit in the wrong spot and your career could be over.So why not go for the good business decisions.As in the money.Its understandable it might not be what the fans want,but you gotta look at your own interest too.That money wont be there forever.

          Oh yeah,Pac ko3 Prime Tyson.With Manny with a broken left arm.

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            #25
            Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
            No, it's not being smart, it's being cheap, its wanting it easy. PAC is about as ambitious a fighter we'll know. The guy simply reaches for the skies and it could prove dangerous if he keeps movin' up. PAC already has cemented his legacy. If you go look at boxing history, you will not too many guys from the lower weights with what PAC has done. Hell, Finito Lopez didn't have the balls to even bother moving 1 lb up.
            Ok im done with your ****** ass, your just a typical nuthugger who doesnt know **** about boxing... **** you even got a pic of kickboxers or whatever the **** that **** is.. gtfo with your biased ass opinions, their annoying.

            And you still havent answered the question of who were the bigger men has been fighting over the years........

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              #26
              Originally posted by xcaret
              Ok im done with your ****** ass, your just a typical nuthugger who doesnt know **** about boxing... **** you even got a pic of kickboxers or whatever the **** that **** is.. gtfo with your biased ass opinions, their annoying.

              And you still havent answered the question of who were the bigger men has been fighting over the years........
              who has the bigger **** and which one wrecked ur ass? ur dad's **** or ur uncle? oh wait they didnt use their ****s. let me ask the question again who's got the bigger ***** ur dad's or ur uncle's?

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                #27
                Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7
                Dude,you're crazy.Once you're in the position to decide whether you want ex. 4million for fighting a named fighter,or 7 million fighting an exciting known fighter which wont really mean nothing,then you come and holla at me.

                Most ppl forget that boxing is a job and a business.One hit in the wrong spot and your career could be over.So why not go for the good business decisions.As in the money.Its understandable it might not be what the fans want,but you gotta look at your own interest too.That money wont be there forever.

                Oh yeah,Pac ko3 Prime Tyson.With Manny with a broken left arm.
                So you're admitting that if a PAC vs. Juan fight were to be made and Juan ends up winning that it won't do much for his legacy, because it was simply a matchup between a lil guy vs a big guy and the big guy won.

                But if Juan were to beat any of the top 4 welters today. Can you imagine what that will do to Juan's legacy. Juan should ask PAC for some pointers on how to be a legend. PAC will say, move up in weight, fight the toughest sob's in the division and your a legend.

                To be the best you have to beat the best, you have to have some ambition. What does Juan get for fighting a smaller man, outside of $$$ of course. Juan's ambition is to beat on the lil guy because of $$$.

                Again, I give the advantage to Juan against PAC, but PAC definitely has an inside shot at beating Juan

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by MASGAGOMEXI
                  No, it's not being smart, it's being cheap, its wanting it easy. PAC is about as ambitious a fighter we'll know. The guy simply reaches for the skies and it could prove dangerous if he keeps movin' up. PAC already has cemented his legacy. If you go look at boxing history, you will not too many guys from the lower weights with what PAC has done. Hell, Finito Lopez didn't have the balls to even bother moving 1 lb up.
                  we're talking about semantics here. you say cheap i say smart.

                  yes i agree it can be dangerous for him to keep moving up. ive read manny walks around at 142.
                  if he wants a ltwt belt he should think about david diaz.stay away from casamayor or juan diaz!
                  plenty of money fights for pacman at 130.

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