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  • cupcrazy01
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    #11
    All the champions present tough challenges for Winky, who may have big problems dealing with getting back to 160 at his age after a fight at 170. A year ago I would have said he dominates all these guys, but now I would say:

    vs. Pavlik: Winky would go the distance but probably lose a decision based on punch output by Pavlik. Pavlik wouldn't back into the corners like Taylor did vs. Winky and Winky could only get a draw in that fight (I, like many others, thought Winky won). Pavlik would land a couple of big shots that would make Winky stumble, and we all know judges care much more about aggression than defense and ring generalship.

    vs. Abraham: Winky could win a decision in the US and lose one in Europe. It would be a very entertaining fight, though, especially since Winky has let his hands go so much more the last few fights.

    vs. Sturm: Winky by clear decision. This would be the best match-up for Wright, in my opinion. Sturm doesn't have the power to make Winky hesitate about throwing.

    Again, I love Winky but he is now just past his prime and he needs to pick his spots. A fight with Pavlik is a tough, tough battle whereas fights with Sturm or Abraham present good money if he goes to Europe but the increasing possibility he wouldn't get a fair shake on the cards.

    If I was Winky, I would try to get a fight with the Cal-Kessler loser (since the winner probably gets Hopkins) or perhaps even wait for the Trinidad-Jones fight. If Trinidad wins, I could see that rematch, and if Jones wins, I could definitely see a RJJ-Winky HBO PPV fight next summer.

    Winky's time is running out, so it is discouraging that there is nothing being talked about for his next opponent...

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    • Rhys79
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      #12
      I would love to see winky and pavlik, Neither fighter would back down, and we'd get a great mix of power and boxing. Pavlik gets hit more than he ever has, and winky gets hit harder. It would be a great show.

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      • kayjay
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        #13
        Pavlik would likely punch through his guard and hurt him. Abraham would make a boring fight that could go either way. Sturm would lose an even more boring decision. Both AA and Sturm use a high guard and have low punch outputs. Only Abraham is faster, with great power and chin, whereas Sturm has neither of those.

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        • robjr
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          #14
          sturm is so underrated.. only 2 losses were a robbery decision to DLH.. and a premature stoppage to castilejo when he was WAY ahead on the cards.. Then beat him in rematch anyways...

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          • The Troll
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            #15
            Originally posted by cupcrazy01
            vs. Pavlik: Winky would go the distance but probably lose a decision based on punch output by Pavlik. Pavlik wouldn't back into the corners like Taylor did vs. Winky and Winky could only get a draw in that fight (I, like many others, thought Winky won). Pavlik would land a couple of big shots that would make Winky stumble, and we all know judges care much more about aggression than defense and ring generalship.

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            Aggression and the effectiveness and amount of punches landed are the most important criteria when scoring a round. Defense is the least priority. Some judges will score close rounds where everything else is even to the better defensive fighter. That's the only scenario where your really supposed to score a round based on defense.

            I'm assuming in that scenario also their workrates are similar and it's not clear who the aggressor is because in a close round the aggressor should always always always get the nod. The guy pushing the fight.
            Last edited by The Troll; 10-08-2007, 05:11 PM.

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            • SkillspayBills
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              #16
              Winky will unify the titles if he chooses to. IMO none of the champions are messing with him at 160. Pavlik has a good chance to break through that defence though so that is the toughest fight.

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              • The Troll
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                #17
                Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                Winky will unify the titles if he chooses to. IMO none of the champions are messing with him at 160. Pavlik has a good chance to break through that defence though so that is the toughest fight.
                unifying the belts doesn't mean anything. Pavlik's is uncontested as the undisputed champion.

                Pavlik would give Wright the first stoppage loss of his career. He'd be in front of him to be hit because he's not mobile and doesn't have the offensive firepower to deter Pavik's attack. Round after round, relentless agression.

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                • WLAD OWNS
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                  Winky will unify the titles if he chooses to. IMO none of the champions are messing with him at 160. Pavlik has a good chance to break through that defence though so that is the toughest fight.
                  Winky is DONE bro, he looked like he lost his handspeed overnight in the Hopkins fight and he was Telegraphing his punches. I think Winky could maybe get by Sturm and Abraham, but Pavlik would break through his guard and KO him, even Popkins said this.

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                  • ztrac79
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
                    Winky is DONE bro, he looked like he lost his handspeed overnight in the Hopkins fight and he was Telegraphing his punches. I think Winky could maybe get by Sturm and Abraham, but Pavlik would break through his guard and KO him, even Popkins said this.
                    I think allot of Winky looking slow, was he carried the extra weight bad. It wouldn't surprise me to see him look back to normal form at the lower weight of 160. Just doesn't look good at 170.

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                    • xxjace
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by brently1979
                      I think he gives all of those guys trouble. We haven't heard from Wright in a while.
                      I agree I think he will be dangerous at 160 for sure.

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