manny pacquiao's pursuit of greatness

[Motofan]

MAB: Beaten beyond recognition. Then ran like Pac was Mike Tyson.
Morales: Beaten beyond recognition. TWICE. Had a gift decision in the first.
JMM: Beaten if not for a scoring error. Ran all the way to Indonesia to hide.
Ledwaba: Top 12 p4p got the shock of his life.
Sasakul: The man at 108 who got ****d by Pacquiao

Add to that many world champs and many undefeated fighters to his resume.

THe first MAB win was a good one. The second one was against a MAB with a foot alread out the door.
Morales beat Manny in the first fight. He lost in the second, but still, at the end of his career. Look at how he has fought since winning the first fight...
JMM won that fight. He won that by as much as Peter beat Mccline by, and if you werent bias you would know it. The only scoring error in that fight that matters to me is that the judges had there thumbs up there asses when it came time to score the rounds. Yeah the one judge admited that he messed up and it would have given Pac the win, but like most people I feel that Pac CLEARLY lost that fight. He got a boxing lesson.
I have not heard of the last 2 guys, but I have a hard time seeing that beating those two guys and splitting wins with an old Morales, and beating a basically already retired former great MAB would put PAC into the top 10 all time. Not even close, not even in the ballpark.

[Joartcc3]

You are a ****ing idiot.First off Morales beat him clearly the first time so no excuses.Marquez boxed his ears off.And tell me what many world champs and undefeated fighters are you reffering to?Be specific.

Point is.

He has fought the best and defeated the best.

Your opinions are rendered moot anyway.

[-Mbandit-]

Dude you got no balls.

You called Pac this and that and when Pac retired your fighters you call them bums and washed up.

You're a shame to be a Mexican.

I don't understand why are you guys saying Pac retired them.First off Barrera clearly stated that he would retire after this fight regardless of theoutcome,so you tell me how the hell did he retire him?And how did he retire Morales if he fought again after his loss to Pac?How the hell is that retiring him.

[Joartcc3]

I don't understand why are you guys saying Pac retired them.First off Barrera clearly stated that he would retire after this fight regardless of theoutcome,so you tell me how the hell did he retire him?And how did he retire Morales if he fought again after his loss to Pac?How the hell is that retiring him.

The simple point is.

PAC has defeated the best.

Opinions of them being old and this and that are rendered moot by the fact that he has fought the best.

Only idiots will argue otherwise.

Question.

Are you an idiot?

[-Mbandit-]

The simple point is.

PAC has defeated the best.

Opinions of them being old and this and that are rendered moot by the fact that he has fought the best.

Only idiots will argue otherwise.

Question.

Are you an idiot?

No.Are you?Cuz when did I say he has not fought the best?Tell me when?My reply was about you saying that he retired them not about him fighting the best.

[Joartcc3]

No.Are you?Cuz when did I say he has not fought the best?Tell me when?My reply was about you saying that he retired them not about him fighting the best.

Then we have no argument then.

Honestly I admire Mexican fighter as much as ours. I've said in the past that my basis of greatness is resume and manner of victories. All other considerations are trivial.

This is why I put Morales ahead of Barrera.

What makes it laughable are some posters here claiming this boxer is great or is not great. Fine. I respect opinions. But let's put those opinions to the test. Skill is tested against opposition. Legacies are tested by their actions. Actions are explained by manner of victories. Excuses and insults remain legitimate ONLY IF THEY ARE PROVEN AND VALIDATED.

Those simple tests I apply and I never go wrong. Forget undefeated padded records, forget hype. A greatness of a fighter is proven by fighting the best and beating them.

And Fake Floyd fails on all category.

[One Hit KO]

Then we have no argument then.

Honestly I admire Mexican fighter as much as ours. I've said in the past that my basis of greatness is resume and manner of victories. All other considerations are trivial.

This is why I put Morales ahead of Barrera.

What makes it laughable are some posters here claiming this boxer is great or is not great. Fine. I respect opinions. But let's put those opinions to the test. Skill is tested against opposition. Legacies are tested by their actions. Actions are explained by manner of victories. Excuses and insults remain legitimate ONLY IF THEY ARE PROVEN AND VALIDATED.

Those simple tests I apply and I never go wrong. Forget undefeated padded records, forget hype. A greatness of a fighter is proven by fighting the best and beating them.

And Fake Floyd fails on all category.

who is FLOYD by the way? oh i remember the guy who said he will beat ODLH brutally but instead run around the ring like it was a ****ing marathon. he should've joined puff daddy on that NY Marathon to support a foundation. but instead the punk ***** threw money in the air and almost got people killed what a ****ing dumb ****. was that FLOYD the dumb? correct me if i am mistaken

[THRILLAinmanila]

JMM is not washed-up yet. I think he's going to give Pacquiao a run for his money. Bring on Pac-JMM II

[andrew14]

No.Are you?Cuz when did I say he has not fought the best?Tell me when?My reply was about you saying that he retired them not about him fighting the best.

you are an absolute idiiot!! what if barrera and morales beats pac back then!! there will be no excuses for pac.. non alike for mab and EM old this and that excuses moron.. to many ****s war they've done this and that again..

back then pac is a ordinary boxer challenger and nothing to proove but seeking..

back then all the glory and greatness of barrera and morales they have!

but pac shock them all!! and world of boxing! isnt it incredible?!

you have only jmm and soto.. so make sure you have some back ups and more excuses..