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  • BigDog9
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    #11
    i dunno but this fight was good but i didnt have pac winning most of the rounds. and i had it a lil closer than there score cards. he didnt even hurt mab, he was still standing

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    • sonofisis
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      #12
      I just don't agree with how everyone is blaming MAB.. Of course if a few posters would heed their own logic, that it takes two to tango, they'd understand that Pacquiao could have initiated more aswell. Being five years younger and with that being his trademark, it should be expected. But he didn't do anything. I'd consider putting Juan Manuel Márquez ahead of him in the rankings if he beats Juarez convincingly.. With that said, I don't think he's losing steam..

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      • parrinkinpau
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        #13
        how can you guys say barrera was running???? he did not run, he boxed actually i actually think he stood in front of pacman more than i tought he would and to me it was a draw, certanly pacman kept asking got to help him everytime he went to his corner. and he wasnt too sure he won the fight look at his reaction before and after the desicion. that is a fact

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        • loui_ludwig
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          #14
          Originally posted by parrinkinpau
          how can you guys say barrera was running???? he did not run, he boxed actually i actually think he stood in front of pacman more than i tought he would and to me it was a draw, certanly pacman kept asking got to help him everytime he went to his corner. and he wasnt too sure he won the fight look at his reaction before and after the desicion. that is a fact
          No, MAB wasn't running but he was fighting at a distance.

          A draw? In no way that fight was a draw.

          As far as Pac asking God for help, Pac always does that on his fights.

          With the decision, Pac has never had a decision win in the states. Even Steward said that it might worry Pac's team and fan cuz all of Pac's fight in the states that he won are by TKO/KO's.

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          • Bogler
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            #15
            Originally posted by sonofisis
            I just don't agree with how everyone is blaming MAB.. Of course if a few posters would heed their own logic, that it takes two to tango, they'd understand that Pacquiao could have initiated more aswell. Being five years younger and with that being his trademark, it should be expected. But he didn't do anything. I'd consider putting Juan Manuel Márquez ahead of him in the rankings if he beats Juarez convincingly.. With that said, I don't think he's losing steam..
            haha ur funny. the slow plodding not even p4p juarez who lost to a barrera on a bicycle? how is that gonna push jmm ahead of manny. jmm got pushed up the p4p only after he beat mab, who manny just defeated almost onesidedly. jmm lost to chrisjohn few fights ago. it's really apparent from all your pac posts, you're really just looking for something to bring down pac.

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            • sonofisis
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              #16
              Originally posted by Bogler
              you're really just looking for something to bring down pac.
              Another Pacquiao fanatic, eh?. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about either since Márquez was already ranked higher than Barrera when they met. Also, based on Pac's last performance and the fact that the last time him and Márquez met they had a draw, with me having Márquez winning, I'd put him ahead for a good performance that displays his skills until Pac can prove that he can beat him. Márquez' win over Barrera was a better and more exciting win, and Chris John doesn't matter so much as Pac's first fight with Morales, not to mention Márquez won that fight..

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              • Wiley Hyena
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                #17
                Originally posted by sonofisis
                Another Pacquiao fanatic, eh?. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about either since Márquez was already ranked higher than Barrera when they met. Also, based on Pac's last performance and the fact that the last time him and Márquez met they had a draw, with me having Márquez winning, I'd put him ahead for a good performance that displays his skills until Pac can prove that he can beat him. Márquez' win over Barrera was a better and more exciting win, and Chris John doesn't matter so much as Pac's first fight with Morales, not to mention Márquez won that fight..
                Yeah but Marquez is not getting any younger either. It will be even harder for him in a the rematch with Pac.

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                • steptwome
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                  Yeah but Marquez is not getting any younger either. It will be even harder for him in a the rematch with Pac.
                  Marquez and Morales wrote the blueprint for dissecting Pacman. You have to outbox him and sustain your energy level. He is a high volume FIGHTER not a skilled boxer. He overwhelms his opponents period. where's the SKILL in that.

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                  • Alibata
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                    #19
                    De La Hoya was pretty much always an exciting fighter throughout his career... Look what happened when they put Floyd in front of him...

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                    • Bogler
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by sonofisis
                      Another Pacquiao fanatic, eh?. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about either since Márquez was already ranked higher than Barrera when they met. Also, based on Pac's last performance and the fact that the last time him and Márquez met they had a draw, with me having Márquez winning, I'd put him ahead for a good performance that displays his skills until Pac can prove that he can beat him. Márquez' win over Barrera was a better and more exciting win, and Chris John doesn't matter so much as Pac's first fight with Morales, not to mention Márquez won that fight..
                      and ur another pachater? lol. jmm higher than mab before they fought? haha. i believe barrera was ranked higher than jmm before they met, barrera had a string of 6 wins after his loss to pac, while jmm had recently lost to chris john, so how did u rate jmm higher? now even if you dispute that, it's still a loss and this doesnt' make him be rated higher than mab, so you're point here is voided. jmm-mab may seem to be more exciting because mab was more afraid to mix it up w/ pac, he knew it'll take only a few continuous exchange and he'd go down. so he was on his bicycle more than in the jmm fight, he knew he could take jmm's punch.

                      and jmm-pac was a draw however many times you argue about it. so i could argue that if not for the ****** judge, pac would have won and we wouldn't be even arguing about that fight. and those are facts, not opinions. i could also argue that merchant/steward/lampley and more boxing analysts had pac winning and you still wont bend.

                      and however you put down em2 and em3 w/ pac, fact is, he blew away morales in 10 and 3rounds respectively, something even a 135lb bigger stronger diaz couldn't do. oh, and how did you score that fight anway? had morales winning?

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