Pac man no1 p4p ha ha ha

[sonofisis]

Wrong....Pac is not wild.

He is very wild, especially after he gets hit with a good punch..

[Alibata]

AN AMATEUR? HE WAS THERE FIGHTING WHILE MARCO WAS THERE RUNNING AROUND AND HUGGING. WHAT THE **** IS THAT ****.

Barrera was imitating both Hatton and Mayweather.

[JaNnO]

Wiley.. You wrote: "That was an impressive string of "old Mexicans"
that Pac's beaten."

^I then ask you to name more than 2 and you cop-out by telling me that he fought these respective fighters more than once, and then give me some subjective opinion about you thinking that Pac beat Marquez, even though he didn't. Therefore, my point still stands since you were unable to name more than two of the same over-the-hill fighters who were both out of there primes and far removed from their younger years.



Moving the goal post. He beat two of the same old fighters. Beating up on old men over and over is not impressive. The fact that they are HOFs makes it notable, but not impressive.



Because you love overstating so it seems. A "string" of fights with the same old fighters yes, but no fresh blood.



I already took that into consideration, so what?

Well this is a biased observation and obviously a double standard. If this is applied to JMM who I think is overrated, who did JMM beat that warrants him to be at #3 on your list? He even struggled against Jaca, a B-class fighter.

MAB, JMM and Morales were 29 when he fought and beat them, JMM included. MAB was a top 5 P4P when Pac beat him, Erik was still in the top 10 until Manny made him age overnight and JMM is obviously is on everybody's top 10.
So what I want to know is why they are suddenly over the hill when Pac beat them?

[JaNnO]

No it isn't a double standard, you just don't understand the concept of p4p.. It means that Floyd is a better overall fighter or winner. That if they were in the same division, Floyd would be favored to win. That is all that it means, so displaying your skill is a huge part of the assessment and Pac's lack of skills is made up for with excitement, which he did not show last night.

Being a better boxer doesn't mean an over-all fighter. PBF is an excellent fighter hat uses his speed to move in and out and defensive wits to win his game but you can't say that until he fights Pac. Pac is the type of fighter that can take your lights off any time during the fight. He can finish an opponent too at a smell of a blood. At 135 it is a 50-50 fight for me, so the only thing that can settle the score if they fight each other. Below that it's all Pac and above that, it's all PBF.

[sonofisis]

Well this is a biased observation and obviously a double standard. If this is applied to JMM who I think is overrated, who did JMM beat that warrants him to be at #3 on your list? He even struggled against Jaca, a B-class fighter.

Marquez has fought at a high level with more people. Beating Barrera aswell, and also Gainer and Peden, losing a disputed decision to Chris John, while getting a draw in the first match with Pac, basically outboxing him after the first round, and now fighting Juarez. Pac is known for beating the same two people after fighting them over and over at the twilight of their careers....

MAB, JMM and Morales were 29 when he fought and beat them, JMM included. MAB was a top 5 P4P when Pac beat him, Erik was still in the top 10 until Manny made him age overnight and JMM is obviously is on everybody's top 10. So what I want to know is why they are suddenly over the hill when Pac beat them?

Actually, Zahir Raheem got to Morales first, after Morales had already beaten Pac and Barrera wasn't so over-the-hill in the first match as he definitely is now, but even then he was already battle worn..

[Sweet Pea 50]

I'm a disliker? Wrong. Try again. I see the two fighters, and break them down. Mayweather is the better fighter. No more, no less. YOU are truly a hater Wily Coyote. Their is no rhyme or reason to the things you post in your arguements. You just spew **** out, with no thought. Manny knocking out Mayweather in your alternate universe being the greatest piece of garbage in your vast arsenal of Mayweather haterism. I don't "dislike" Hatton. I "dislike" Hattons chances in this fight. Do you see the difference?

[sonofisis]

Being a better boxer doesn't mean an over-all fighter.

Nobody said that..

It means that Floyd is a better overall fighter

^Thanx..

PBF is an excellent fighter hat uses his speed to move in and out and defensive wits to win his game but you can't say that until he fights Pac.

What I can say based on their respective skill level and effectiveness, including accomplishments, was that if they clashed at the same weight, it would be an easy fight for Floyd, who makes him look like a novice. Seems to be the established consensus aswell seeing as how Floyd is ranked #1 in the most respectable magazines and sports journalists/analysts' opinion..

Pac is the type of fighter that can take your lights off any time during the fight.

So?

He can finish an opponent too at a smell of a blood. At 135 it is a 50-50 fight for me, so the only thing that can settle the score if they fight each other. Below that it's all Pac and above that, it's all PBF.

At 135 Floyd beat Castillo, N'dou, and Sosa, Pac would not be a problem at all..

[Amir K Shareef]

After seeing him last night it made me laugh that people actually think he's beter than floyd, what a joke. Pac man would get killed by floyd, he looked like an amature last night.
Imagine what floyd would do to him every time he charges in with his left hand, pbf would hit him everytime and never get caught.
So overal there is no way pac man is p4p no1.

hell ya there is a HUGE talent gap between floyd and pacman... HUGE!! floyd would pplay with manny all night

[El Jesus]

i think a combination of people who probably have only been following pac and pbf since maybe 2004 have lead to a plethora of ignorance in this thread

[HISTORY]

I never said he was number 1 pound for pound and I am sure no one did. But he is lucky to be in a division full of nobodies that he is a level higher than as of now.