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  • DIOS DOMINICANO
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    #181
    Originally posted by Easton Assassin
    I know one thing Dios. If you don't stop putting all my ex-girlfreands in your avatar we gonna have a problem!
    I just appreciate you sharing your sloppy seconds.

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    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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      #182
      Originally posted by moofo
      I thought it was Bob Arum who offered the purse?
      How can Arm or Margarito (interchangeable since the promoter speaks for the fighter) offer a fight for $8MM when (up to that point) his fighter had not yet fought for even ONE million?

      Where was that $8 million going to come from? You haven't answered the question.

      Promoters are a revenue source now??
      Last edited by DIOS DOMINICANO; 10-02-2007, 11:09 PM.

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        #183
        Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
        How can Arm or Margarito (interchangeable since the promoter speaks for the fighter) offer a fight for $8MM when (up to that point) his fighter had not yet fought for even ONE million?

        Where was that $8 million going to come from? You haven't answered the question.
        Maybe...umm...Arum??? He promotes fights doesn't he??? I heard he did.

        Please verify for me.

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        • DIOS DOMINICANO
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          #184
          Originally posted by Azteca
          Maybe...umm...Arum??? He promotes fights doesn't he??? I heard he did.

          Please verify for me.
          Promoters put up their money in advance for the purses? Is that what you are saying?

          Promoters are a revenue source now?

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            #185
            Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
            Promoters put up their money in advance for the purses? Is that what you are saying?

            Promoters are a revenue source now?
            No you dip. I wasn't saying that. Putting words in my mouth as usual.

            But he is a promoter. Im sure he had it figured out. I mean you really think Arum would offer Mayweather a 'fake' contract? A contract that wouldn't of worked out in the first place? Is that what your suggesting?

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              #186
              Originally posted by Azteca
              No you dip. I wasn't saying that. Putting words in my mouth as usual.

              But he is a promoter. Im sure he had it figured out. I mean you really think Arum would offer Mayweather a 'fake' contract? A contract that wouldn't of worked out in the first place? Is that what your suggesting?
              The money comes from the fans. You and I. In this case, the $8MM would come from the PPV revenues.

              Since FMJ is a proven PPV commodity, and Margarito has proven that he can NOT carry a PPV event, the money that Arum was offering was money from Floyd's own pocket.

              It would be the equivalent of YOU promoting ME to go fight Oscar. You "offer" Oscar $20 million, while penciling in $2 mil for me and a healthy cut for yourself.

              It is a bull**** offer. It was "an offer" that only served Arum's interests. PBF has just generated $20 mil in revenues with Judah, and then followed that with $17 mil vs Baldo. Why would he need Arum? Get it?

              The very reason that Floyd paid $750K to buy out of his TR contract was that he did not want to pay a promoter's cut. Resultingly, he hired GTP to do a one-off free agent deal for "Pretty Risky".

              Last January, Margarito sold 30K (thirty) PPV's. And Arum "offers" PBF $8 mil. Margarito has no fanbase. PBF had the entire fanbase. Thus, it was money from Floyd's own pocket.

              Hayman/Ellerbe/ et al saw what it was. I'm surprised that you did not.

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                #187
                Originally posted by Azteca
                No you dip. I wasn't saying that. Putting words in my mouth as usual.

                But he is a promoter. Im sure he had it figured out. I mean you really think Arum would offer Mayweather a 'fake' contract? A contract that wouldn't of worked out in the first place? Is that what your suggesting?
                And you can call me as many childish names as you want. But I know the business of this sport.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                  The money comes from the fans. You and I. In this case, the $8MM would come from the PPV revenues.

                  Since FMJ is a proven PPV commodity, and Margarito has proven that he can NOT carry a PPV event, the money that Arum was offering was money from Floyd's own pocket.

                  It would be the equivalent of YOU promoting ME to go fight Oscar. You "offer" Oscar $20 million, while penciling in $2 mil for me and a healthy cut for yourself.

                  It is a bull**** offer. It was "an offer" that only served Arum's interests. PBF has just generated $20 mil in revenues with Judah, and then followed that with $17 mil vs Baldo. Why would he need Arum? Get it?

                  The very reason that Floyd paid $750K to buy out of his TR contract was that he did not want to pay a promoter's cut. Resultingly, he hired GTP to do a one-off free agent deal for "Pretty Risky".

                  Last January, Margarito sold 30K (thirty) PPV's. And Arum "offers" PBF $8 mil. Margarito has no fanbase. PBF had the entire fanbase. Thus, it was money from Floyd's own pocket.

                  Hayman/Ellerbe/ et al saw what it was. I'm surprised that you did not.
                  Margarito fought Manuel Gomez, on SHOW TIME. Of course, he aint going to sell. Manuel freakin' gomez.

                  Weak argument. I figured you would jump all over Hayman/Ellerbe's nuts.

                  Margarito has a HUGE following with mexican fans. Hell, any fighter does. And If I remember correctly Arum was lobbying for the fight in the Arco Arena in sacramento??

                  That's in California, correct?

                  Are alot of ******s in California? Would the fight of been huge in Sacramento, with the right promotion and marketing and all of that stuff?

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by Azteca
                    Margarito fought Manuel Gomez, on SHOW TIME. Of course, he aint going to sell. Manuel freakin' gomez.

                    Weak argument. I figured you would jump all over Hayman/Ellerbe's nuts.

                    Margarito has a HUGE following with mexican fans. Hell, any fighter does. And If I remember correctly Arum was lobbying for the fight in the Arco Arena in sacramento??

                    That's in California, correct?

                    Are alot of ******s in California? Would the fight of been huge in Sacramento, with the right promotion and marketing and all of that stuff?
                    If Margarito has such a huge buying fanbase, then tell me how many PPV's that the Margarito/Williams fight did. Or even when you reach back to the heavily-promoted ESPN Margarito-Mosley co-feature.

                    Dude. The nums don't lie. The only way to judge a fighter's marketabilty is through his nums. And if people ain't buying, it means squat. For example, the Barrera-Morales trilogy did around 330K each. But as soon as Barrera tried to fight a no-name (peden or fana) his nums dropped to 100K.

                    You can insult me all you want. I know the business, and I know the nums.

                    Do the math: Arco holds 20K. Can the gate upside offset the casino site fee?

                    Are you one of those guys who is too proud to say "oh, I didn't think of that"?

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                    • moofo
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                      #190
                      That is some bull**** right there Double D.
                      Jesus christ you really are lost in the fog of Mayweathers Hype Machine.
                      No point arguing with a person that can't see past the nonsense.
                      No matter what it is with Floyd you dig out excuse after excuse after excuse.
                      Which is why it will be so much sweeter come DEC 8th when Hatton KO's Floyd and puts the myth to rest once and for all.
                      Floyd is a Very arrogant , Ignorant , disrespectful , deluded person.
                      Most of his fan's seem to share these traits.
                      Now I know you are going to talk crap no matter what with Floyd I feel I can't discuss the topic with you anymore.
                      It's like arguing Politics with a George Bush Supporter.

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