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  • *2TOUGH*
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    is it really racism in boxing?

    Originally posted by GreatestIAM
    I was let down i put all my reasoning and heart into a victory for Jermaine and he looked like he was going to fulfill the pick but, ultimatly let a guy who said experience was going to be the difference from the amateurs to yesterday and he was right. JT really let me down and being a guy who tends to favor the 0 in record it will be hard to root for him any more!


    And even though you may think im racist for this thread im not i date white girls i just dont like white guys who talk **** and white old people...
    Come on guys... can you understand where all this racial **** is coming from?

    I mean wasn't slavery still around in the USA in the 1960? and even after it was abolished Blacks were never liked and were frowned upon racially. I hate to say it but white people conquered and enslaved alot of nations, people, cultures and land.

    Maybe that sort of **** ain't easily forgotten? and there is competition. What is wrong with you supporting YOUR own RACE? Consider this, when i was in the playground or yard for you yanks and i saw someone like me that's my race it would be natural for me to get to know them and relate to them more easily. Is it racist? hardly! Does it mean i HATE white people? NO!

    At the end of the day people will still let colour, race and religion affect them whether they like it or not.

    Lets consider this, maybe GreatestIam supports JT because in his mind hes thinking:

    'white people enslaved MY people and I want JT to kick Pavliks ass in revenge'

    Is that racist? No. Did Pavlik 'enslave' his people? No But generations ago the white Euros and white yanks did so maybe you can understand his thinking?

    I believe we should all move on and not let race, colour or religion affect us. But in reality it affects us. and it affects non whites more as there thinking becomes some what narrow and of the past.

    Maybe its jealousy, maybe its about competition?

    With regards to boxing, Kelly Pavlik is a nice sort of guy so its hard to 'hate' him. JT is a nice guy too(not so ****y like Mayweather) and he says he would not say anything 'bad' at a press conference as he wants to set a good example for his children.
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    Slavery was abolished in the United States in the 19th century, but civil rights were still a major issue for long after, especially in the South. And it isn't just a simplt case of "White people enslaved black people". Even if it were it wouldn't make any more sense to hate white people for enslaving black people than it would to hate germans for bombing london.

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      #3
      Originally posted by squealpiggy
      Slavery was abolished in the United States in the 19th century, but civil rights were still a major issue for long after, especially in the South. And it isn't just a simplt case of "White people enslaved black people". Even if it were it wouldn't make any more sense to hate white people for enslaving black people than it would to hate germans for bombing london.
      Yeah i see your point.. but can you see WHY Black people support black fighters?

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      • Welter_Skelter
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        Did you know That Black people also enslaved each other???

        Is that why so many of them shoot each other these days??

        Did you know THAT every race kept ****** of other races and tribes throughout history???

        It's not like slavery was exclusive to WHite people..

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        • PunchDrunk
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          #5
          Originally posted by DaveBrown
          Yeah i see your point.. but can you see WHY Black people support black fighters?
          Can you see WHY white people support white fighters?

          See, now it sounds racist. Why isn't it, the other way around?

          I'm white, but I support any fighter I happen to like. I rooted for Pavlik, but mostly because I didn't like JT so much? Because he's black? No, because he got a few gift decisions, and I hate when that happens. The fighters he got those against where also black, and I would have rooted for Winky and B-Hop against him as well.

          Fighters I also don't care for: Floyd (personality), Wlad&Vitaly (rock'em sock'em robots), a lot of the German fighters (hate their style of boxing)

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          • me2007
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            #6
            i dont care if he hates white old people or white people in general, as long as he doesn`t come on my property.

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            • dustybin
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              I think it was north-African people who enslaved your people,rich white poeple just bought them after,aswel as Arab countries.Look up 'Barbary Pirates' and you'll realise north-African slave traders captured and sold a hell of alot of white Europeans aswel,though the British can claim to have outlawed the slave trade.The slave trade goes back to Egyptian history and probably further still.Even in America white black chinese people all were used as manual ****** to build the country,its this simplification of a complicated issue which is offensive.The slave trade is STILL around today in different guises.White women for example are sold by sex slave traders to the far east,absolutely 1000,s and this is happening today so why do we only hear about African-Americans being the victims of slavery?.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                Did you know That Black people also enslaved each other???

                Is that why so many of them shoot each other these days??

                Did you know THAT every race kept ****** of other races and tribes throughout history???

                It's not like slavery was exclusive to WHite people..
                yes all valid points.. but deep down YOU want to be with your OWN people. and you want your own people to do well. and i guess Hoskins just wanted his boy to beat Pavlik.

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                • jaredleto
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                  the judges were racist they were gonna rob kelly

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PunchDrunk
                    Can you see WHY white people support white fighters?

                    See, now it sounds racist. Why isn't it, the other way around?

                    I'm white, but I support any fighter I happen to like. I rooted for Pavlik, but mostly because I didn't like JT so much? Because he's black? No, because he got a few gift decisions, and I hate when that happens. The fighters he got those against where also black, and I would have rooted for Winky and B-Hop against him as well.

                    Fighters I also don't care for: Floyd (personality), Wlad&Vitaly (rock'em sock'em robots), a lot of the German fighters (hate their style of boxing)
                    Just goes to show how much you really know...

                    they ain't even GERMAN

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