Bernard Hopkins the best Middleweight ever.

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  • acquitted
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    #31
    Originally posted by beeatch!
    Greb would smother RJJ with power punches, they didn't call the guy "the Human Windmill" for nothing
    get a life loser...u going back to fighter who never fought anybody who knew what a combanation was..get real

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    • dansweeney
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      #32
      Hagler beat two upcoming welterweights to cement his legacy too, hopkins ud over hagler, he kayo's everyone else

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      • phallus
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        #33
        hey acquiited, you're the ****ing loser!! Greb fought Gene Tunney, one of the greatest boxers of all time and destroyed him, just like he'd destroy Jones, or you!

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        • jack_the_rippuh
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          #34
          Anyone have any clips of this guy?

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          • Ivansmamma
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            #35
            Robinson, Hagler and Jones ranks before Hopkins.

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            • pidjs
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              #36
              I wouldn't pick anyone over Hopkins with certainty. He is rough enough to maul his way through Robinson. (If blown-up welterweight and less-skilled Carmen Basilio could do it, and if brawling, straight-forward Gene Fullmer could do it, Hopkins sure as hell could.) He is technically gifted enough to take it to Hagler and Monzon, too. Hagler had trouble with tough guys. People forget, but Vito Antuofermo gave him trouble, as did Roberto Duran. Hagler actually had to come from behind and fight like hell to salvage that one. Hagler lost some decisions early in his career to some Philadelphia tough guys, and Hopkins is the best Philadelphia tough guy since Frazier. I haven't seen enough of Monzon to make an assessment, but from what I have seen of Hopkins I know that he knows how to fight, is versatile, and is never in less-than-perfect condition. Hopkins may or may not be the # 1 guy of all time at middleweight, but he definitely is in the final running and deserves to have his name right up there next to the other top middleweight legends.

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              • dempseyfire
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                #37
                Originally posted by pidjs
                I wouldn't pick anyone over Hopkins with certainty. He is rough enough to maul his way through Robinson. (If blown-up welterweight and less-skilled Carmen Basilio could do it, and if brawling, straight-forward Gene Fullmer could do it, Hopkins sure as hell could.) He is technically gifted enough to take it to Hagler and Monzon, too. Hagler had trouble with tough guys. People forget, but Vito Antuofermo gave him trouble, as did Roberto Duran. Hagler actually had to come from behind and fight like hell to salvage that one. Hagler lost some decisions early in his career to some Philadelphia tough guys, and Hopkins is the best Philadelphia tough guy since Frazier. I haven't seen enough of Monzon to make an assessment, but from what I have seen of Hopkins I know that he knows how to fight, is versatile, and is never in less-than-perfect condition. Hopkins may or may not be the # 1 guy of all time at middleweight, but he definitely is in the final running and deserves to have his name right up there next to the other top middleweight legends.

                Fullmer was not a straight-ahead brawler, although he could slug-he was fast and was an excellent boxer with a great jab. And Vito got beat badly by Hagler both times, the draw was bogus.

                Hopkins-probably a top 10 guy, but nowhere near the best ever. There have been SO MANY great middleweights, from Greb, Robinson, Walker, Hagler, Monzon to Fullmer, Tiger, and Cerdan. And Hopkins' era in which he was dominant is clearly the weakest field of middleweights in history. Great great fighter but not in the league of the VERY best.

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                • mexway
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                  #38
                  id have to go with hagler i love hopkins hes definantly one the best all time but but hagler woulda killed him

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                  • Nautilus
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                    #39
                    Wasn't RJJ a more dominant MW than Nard?

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