McClellan beat Roy in the amatuers..........

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  • ghostbear
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    #11
    At middleweight Roy could outbox anybody. If McClellan landed flush he could ko Roy tho. Depends on if Roy could avoid his shots for the whole fight.

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    • Dynamite76
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      #12
      Roy would have handled Gerald but would get a taste of leather a few times.Aaron Pryor beat Thomas Hearns as a amateur but I know for certain that would not had happened in the pros

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      • jayschre
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        #13
        Roy would have ran his asss off until Gerald started to tire and then Roy would try and land a few bombs of his own only to get caught with a good shot and then, LIGHTS OUT ROY!

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        • scramwarrior
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          #14
          I would say Roy Jones bu UD. Back then, Roy just showed me too much to take many other fighters over him.

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          • puppy_dogg
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            #15
            i think ya'll are forgeting that jones hardly ever took a clean punch at 160 and 168. what makes you think mcclellan would land a big one? roy was untouchable at supermiddle and mostly through his lightheavy days. toney was the first guy to actualy land a few good shots on roy although griffin landed better ones and more of them. gerald would have been beaten by roy, no question.

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            • jayschre
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              I think I'm basing my opinion on both fighters level of competition , I have never and problly never will be all that impressed with alot of the guys Roy has beaten, imo he fought way too many guys that had full time jobs outside the ring, postman, a cop, a garbageman from New Zealand, While Gerald fought quite a few really good opponents, Roy seemed to like to fight the guys that weren't nearly as dangerous, of course excluding Tony and B. Hop neither of which had the ko power of the G-man.

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              • The Fix
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                #17
                Originally posted by jayschre
                I think I'm basing my opinion on both fighters level of competition , I have never and problly never will be all that impressed with alot of the guys Roy has beaten, imo he fought way too many guys that had full time jobs outside the ring, postman, a cop, a garbageman from New Zealand, While Gerald fought quite a few really good opponents, Roy seemed to like to fight the guys that weren't nearly as dangerous, of course excluding Tony and B. Hop neither of which had the ko power of the G-man.
                g-man fought nobodies. have you ever heard of james toney, bernard hopkins, mike mccallum,vinny paz,virgill hill or john ruiz? roy fought and beat all these guys. who did gerald fight?

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                • jayschre
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Fix
                  g-man fought nobodies. have you ever heard of james toney, bernard hopkins, mike mccallum,vinny paz,virgill hill or john ruiz? roy fought and beat all these guys. who did gerald fight?
                  Nobodies huh, well your right I haven't ever heard of Toney, B-Hop, that's why I included them in my post! Damn man read before you respond, anyways point was this- Roy fought McCallum when he was 40 years old = nowhere near as dangerous as he once was, same goes for Virgil Hill, both were really good top notch fighters at one time but imo their time was well past when Roy fought them. Now I sure as hell have a problem with you saying that Gerald fought nobodies and then saying how roy hasn't, Case in point Tony "the punching postman" Thorton wow what a worthy challenger. Next we have a cop from NYC named Richard Frazier who believed in his abilities so much that he sold ad space on the BOTTOM of his frickin shoes( in case you don't realize that is so we could see the ad when he got ko'ed. Then there was Glen "the garbageman" Kelley from Austrailia or somewhere like that, Who by the way followed his ko loss to RJJ up by being ko'ed in only 4 rds. by Paul Briggs, then winning three fights in a row over stiff competition, and I do mean STIFF the three opponents records combined for a whopping 33 wins 22 losses and three draws. Not exactly world class title challenging material is it. Now let's realize that Gerald's career was cut short and he had already fought John "the beast" Mugabi, who lasted 11 rds. with Hagler and 1 rd against Gerald. Julian Jackson (who has unquestionable ko power)twice only lasting 5 rds. and 1 rd., Gilbert Baptist who may not have had the prettiest record but was definately a worthy opponent, hell he went 12 w/ B. Hop, 12 w/ Boudouni, 12 w/ Pettway, 12 w/ Rosi. He lasted ONE against Gerald.
                  I can't really figure out what to think about Roy's fight w/ Ruiz, I mean true he moved up and fought the Heavyweight Champion , But it's Ruiz for gods sake and on top of that it was with Jay Nady as ref( who in case you didn't know is a ref who will not let a fighter hold and hit which is Ruiz's only means of offence) So it's really kinda sketchy at best. Like I have said before this long winded reply from this Kansas gasbag is only ny opinion so take it for what it is, I just think that if they had fought G-man would have won by ko.
                  On a side note does anyone else remember when Roy challenged Nigel Benn to fight after the McClellan fight and was gonna donate his purse to the G- man , except Benn wouldn't do it. I always thought that was really a great gesture from Roy.

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                  • trinidadpr87
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jayschre
                    Nobodies huh, well your right I haven't ever heard of Toney, B-Hop, that's why I included them in my post! Damn man read before you respond, anyways point was this- Roy fought McCallum when he was 40 years old = nowhere near as dangerous as he once was, same goes for Virgil Hill, both were really good top notch fighters at one time but imo their time was well past when Roy fought them. Now I sure as hell have a problem with you saying that Gerald fought nobodies and then saying how roy hasn't, Case in point Tony "the punching postman" Thorton wow what a worthy challenger. Next we have a cop from NYC named Richard Frazier who believed in his abilities so much that he sold ad space on the BOTTOM of his frickin shoes( in case you don't realize that is so we could see the ad when he got ko'ed. Then there was Glen "the garbageman" Kelley from Austrailia or somewhere like that, Who by the way followed his ko loss to RJJ up by being ko'ed in only 4 rds. by Paul Briggs, then winning three fights in a row over stiff competition, and I do mean STIFF the three opponents records combined for a whopping 33 wins 22 losses and three draws. Not exactly world class title challenging material is it. Now let's realize that Gerald's career was cut short and he had already fought John "the beast" Mugabi, who lasted 11 rds. with Hagler and 1 rd against Gerald. Julian Jackson (who has unquestionable ko power)twice only lasting 5 rds. and 1 rd., Gilbert Baptist who may not have had the prettiest record but was definately a worthy opponent, hell he went 12 w/ B. Hop, 12 w/ Boudouni, 12 w/ Pettway, 12 w/ Rosi. He lasted ONE against Gerald.
                    I can't really figure out what to think about Roy's fight w/ Ruiz, I mean true he moved up and fought the Heavyweight Champion , But it's Ruiz for gods sake and on top of that it was with Jay Nady as ref( who in case you didn't know is a ref who will not let a fighter hold and hit which is Ruiz's only means of offence) So it's really kinda sketchy at best. Like I have said before this long winded reply from this Kansas gasbag is only ny opinion so take it for what it is, I just think that if they had fought G-man would have won by ko.
                    On a side note does anyone else remember when Roy challenged Nigel Benn to fight after the McClellan fight and was gonna donate his purse to the G- man , except Benn wouldn't do it. I always thought that was really a great gesture from Roy.
                    WHEN WAS THAT AFTER THE VINNIE PAZ FIGHT?

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                    • jayschre
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                      #20
                      Vinnie Paz was alway a bit overrated I mean come on the guy was a blown up washed out lightweight when he fought Roy! Come on dude damn. But yes it was Roy's next "defense" after Paz.
                      Last edited by jayschre; 12-13-2004, 09:59 PM. Reason: also yes it was his next fight

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