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  • DLT
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    #11
    Originally posted by -Antonio-
    That China chin has him down a whopping one time in his career.

    And DLT...

    Miranda a better win than Cotto has had? Are you kidding me? Miranda was a loud over hyped trash talker. Cotto fought more established guys in his first 20 fights. Give me a break with that ****.

    Yeah Taylor was a better win. Thats a given...
    I disagree and this is coming from a guy who has called Miranda a "black Mayorga". Still, Miranda has some very impressive wins. Cotto's guys dont have any real good wins except for Zab beating Spinks

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      #12
      If Cotto beats Mosley then he's my fighter of the year. Miranda was overrated, Jermain is flawed. Then again, Judah has problems, and you could bring up Mosley's age, and Urkal.

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        #13
        Originally posted by DLT
        Ofcourse Im not talking about head to head but people sweat Cotto for the same exact things that Pavlik is doing now except that he's doing it on a much higher level then Cotto. Cotto has beaten some good guys but he hasnt quickly stopped 2 guys like Taylor & Miranda. Also, Pavlik is a big MW but he isnt that much bigger then Taylor & Miranda who are also strong guys and he still ran through them while alot of Cotto's oppents have clearly been at a size disadvantage.

        To me, I think Pavlik deserves to be ranked higher and deserves to get more respect then Cotto from a hype standpoint. People go crazy on this board about Cotto and I think Pavlik's last 2 performances have been better then Cotto's high stuff. Everyone calls Cotto the most exciting guy in the sport and all this but they dont say those same things about Pavlik. Dont get me wrong, people hype him on here but its nothing like Cotto and I think this puts him on a definatly higher level then Cotto. He is even more of a pressure fighter then Cotto is and punches harder

        Judah is a better win than Miranda, and if Cotto beats Mosley he should be a candidate for fighter of the year.

        Always taking shots at Cotto DLT...

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          #14
          Originally posted by DLT
          I disagree and this is coming from a guy who has called Miranda a "black Mayorga". Still, Miranda has some very impressive wins. Cotto's guys dont have any real good wins except for Zab beating Spinks
          Well, Mosley beat Oscar twice and Vargas twice...Let's talk about this after November 10th.

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            #15
            Originally posted by borikua
            Judah is a better win than Miranda, and if Cotto beats Mosley he should be a candidate for fighter of the year.

            Always taking shots at Cotto DLT...
            I knew you would say that but thats not true. I actually really like both Cotto & Pavlik. As for your other comments, Im a big Zab fan and I do think Miranda is just a black Mayorga but I think the Miranda win is better. He was undefeated, the favorite in the fight, most thought he really beat Abraham and he KO Green. Zab on the other hand was the clear underdog, handnt won in 2 years before the Cotto fight and was basically coming off a year long suspension

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              #16
              Originally posted by borikua
              Well, Mosley beat Oscar twice and Vargas twice...Let's talk about this after November 10th.
              Yeah but we all know thats nothing like beating Hopkins twice, drwawing with Winky, and then beating Spinks & Ouma. Thats still pretty solid. Lets not forget that Pavlik Knocked him out in 7 rounds. Its not like he beat Taylor in a decision. This was also a statement fight for Taylor that you know he was up for. I cant imagine Cotto topping that against Mosley, even if he wins

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                #17
                Make no mistake though, unless Mosley looks completly old over night I will give Cotto a ton of credit for that win. I think thats going to be a crazy fight that has throwback written all over it. Thats going to be a war

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DLT
                  Yeah but we all know thats nothing like beating Hopkins twice, drwawing with Winky, and then beating Spinks & Ouma. Thats still pretty solid. Lets not forget that Pavlik Knocked him out in 7 rounds. Its not like he beat Taylor in a decision. This was also a statement fight for Taylor that you know he was up for. I cant imagine Cotto topping that against Mosley, even if he wins
                  three controversial decisions and two lack luster wins against natural 154 pounders...yeah right.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DLT
                    Make no mistake though, unless Mosley looks completly old over night I will give Cotto a ton of credit for that win. I think thats going to be a crazy fight that has throwback written all over it. Thats going to be a war
                    It has Chavez-Taylor written all over it...believe me, I feel very nervous about this fight. But as always, I hope my boy wins, it's better for boxing imo...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The_Executioner
                      If Cotto beats Mosley then he's my fighter of the year. Miranda was overrated, Jermain is flawed. Then again, Judah has problems, and you could bring up Mosley's age, and Urkal.
                      judah, mosley is more impressive then hatton an oscar?

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