Ring generalship in the 12th

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  • Fox McCloud
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    Ring generalship in the 12th

    Could it be considered using superior ring generalship in the 12th round if the fighter who is sitting on the lead puts the fight in a deep freeze, and limits his opponent's offensive output to a minimum? I was just curious what people thought about this.
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    #2
    Elaborate more. You mean what Winky did against Tayor? Or what DLH did against Trinidad? Or what Floyd did against Baldomir?

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      Originally posted by Azteca
      Elaborate more. You mean what Winky did against Tayor? Or what DLH did against Trinidad? Or what Floyd did against Baldomir?
      Haven't seen DLH-Trinidad... been a while since I saw Taylor-Wright, and I wasn't watching very closely. I think Floyd outlanded Baldomir in the 12th, so that is really a moot point.

      I'm talking about a fighter who hypothetically lands less punches (not a ****ton less, but a few less), but drastically slows the fight down from the pace it had been going the entire fight.

      Say it is Chavez-Taylor I in the 12th round. If Taylor had played it safe, danced around... made Chavez throw half as many punches as he was averaging throughout the fight in the 12th round, but still landed like 2 or 3 less punches, should he have been given the round? Obviously this scenario doesn't mean **** by the way of scoring, but I was just curious if everyone thought this was a form of ring generalship or not.

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        #4
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        Haven't seen DLH-Trinidad... been a while since I saw Taylor-Wright, and I wasn't watching very closely. I think Floyd outlanded Baldomir in the 12th, so that is really a moot point.

        I'm talking about a fighter who hypothetically lands less punches (not a ****ton less, but a few less), but drastically slows the fight down from the pace it had been going the entire fight.

        Say it is Chavez-Taylor I in the 12th round. If Taylor had played it safe, danced around... made Chavez throw half as many punches as he was averaging throughout the fight in the 12th round, but still landed like 2 or 3 less punches, should he have been given the round? Obviously this scenario doesn't mean **** by the way of scoring, but I was just curious if everyone thought this was a form of ring generalship or not.
        Nope. While he may of been effective landing probably 10 out of 20 shots - he was not effective with it and was not attempting to land the cleaner shots. Anyway, that's just my opinion. I usually favour the guy that is pressing more. Especially in the championship rounds.

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          Originally posted by Azteca
          Nope. While he may of been effective landing probably 10 out of 20 shots - he was not effective with it and was not attempting to land the cleaner shots. Anyway, that's just my opinion. I usually favour the guy that is pressing more. Especially in the championship rounds.
          I think I agree with you, but I was just curious what people thought... if anyone else wants to comment I would like to hear a second opinion.

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            #6
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            I think I agree with you, but I was just curious what people thought... if anyone else wants to comment I would like to hear a second opinion.
            My opinion is the only one worth mentioning. You should know that.

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              No way he can win that round. I think the better question is if the guy lands just a few "more" and not less. I think thats what happeneds in most of the situations your talking about.

              Fighter B clearly has the momentum and has won the previous 3 rounds. Now the fight is close to even going into the 12th. In the 12th round fighter A spends most of the time just boxing or moreso running around the ring but because of his movement he is the only guy really capable of landing but fighter B stays on the attack. At the end of the round fighter A has outlanded fighter B 10 to 7 but the judges may still give it to fighter B because they knew that he really tried to land in the 12th but fighter A didnt really give him much of a chance while mostly running.

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                1. Clean effective punching
                2. Effective aggression
                3. Defense
                4. Ring Generalship

                Basically if a fighter is not being aggressive, and isn't landing punches then ring generalship doesn't even factor.

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                  #9
                  Okay, two years later, let's get some more light shed on this topic.

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