ESPN: Mosely Used Steroids

[hitmanhatton]

RyNo,

You are wrong, sir. BALCO absolutely did, did, did include EPO as part of the ****tail.

Their ****tail included the cream and clear, Procrit (epo), insulin, sometimes hGh, and modafinil. In addition to some masking agents.

They included EPO to the extent that they performed blood tests to monitor the hematocrit levels of the athletes.
Please verify your statements, sir.

mosley ko1 mayweather

[IwatchBoxing]

Steroids don't improve your cardiovasular stamina. Do some research. You think if I sit here and take steroids for a few weeks I can box 12 rounds without getting tired?

Dummy.

LOL you mad?? Obously, just by looking at Moselys performance against Margarito, you can asume he was on stuff...

[Benncollinsaad]

What? You don't know what Steroids do, do you?

Balco didn't promote EPO they supplied "the clear" Tetrahydrogestrinone, and it was banned in 03' the year Mosley supposedly knowing used it. Its essentially an anabolic steroid but was not recognised as one until 03'

They DON'T increase your stamina they are like artificial hormones and allow you to exercise and work out for longer with more lean muscle gains, it helps retain proteins in the body that would otherwise be lost through normal means which increases the mass of muscle, bones and skin.

I thought Mosley himself said he used Balco.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Actully, HGH has done the opposite. If you think about Bonds, Clemsns, Romanowski, Seau (yes), etc...those guys maintained and elevated their performances late in their careers. At 40-ish.

Boxers don't have to be on a baseball/football type program where they have a long season.

Here's Vargas' roid body:

Those two I know about, Good point though. Boxers don't get as injured though but then again, baseball players are way more active. You seen how the whole Mets line up was injured?

[Al Haymon]

OOH I get it...was this thread is made to discredit Mosely?? Assuming that's the case, then a super fight with Mayweather never happens and the buzz is killed...and then floyd fights Pac!!!

I get it...lol

Yes, exactly.

Floyd will cite this NSB thread as the reason not to fight Mosley. And the boxing media will be okay with it.

Yes...you get it.

[Ryn0]

RyNo,

You are wrong, sir. BALCO absolutely did, did, did include EPO as part of the ****tail.

Their ****tail included the cream and clear, Procrit (epo), insulin, sometimes hGh, and modafinil. In addition to some masking agents.

They included EPO to the extent that they performed blood tests to monitor the hematocrit levels of the athletes.
Please verify your statements, sir.

Yeah, I was aware they did some testing using EPO on atheletes to test red bloods cell counts etc. But I didn't think they supplied it, I do know that The Clear, the cream and HGh were supplied but they promoted the drug as The Clear...

[Al Haymon]

Good point, boxers don't get as injured though but then again, baseball players are way more active. You seen how the whole Mets line up was injured?

And i know that you're Dominican...so this is said with much respect.

But Dominicans, Puerto Ricans and Venezolanos are the biggest culprits in roid abuse. At least they get caught more.

...and the Mets line-up was heavily Latino.

[rj_ct]

That, my friend, is an EXCELLENT question. One for which I believe RJ is currently perusing BoxRec.

Yeah. Thank god for that ****, boy.

I guess it's more of a testament to the state of the Boxing HOF than Mosley's accomplishments, but the run he went on after winning the title at lightweight was impressive as hell. We'll probably never see a fighter defend his title that often in that amount of time, with such a high KO ratio again.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: fastest lightweight I've ever seen.

[Ryn0]

I thought Mosley himself said he used Balco.

Yeah, he went to Balco but says he didn't know they were illegal which would make sense if he was just taking the clear since it was only banned in 03'

But yeah honestly, I think he took them for the 2nd oscar fight a fight which I think Oscar just did enough to get the nod. I think he took them because he was coming off 4 loses to the two same fighters and though he needed some sort of boost.

Obviously after being found out, he wouldn't take them again. I'd assume the commissions would be extra through in their testing.

[Al Haymon]

Yeah, I was aware they did some testing using EPO on atheletes to test red bloods cell counts etc. But I didn't think they supplied it, I do know that The Clear, the cream and HGh were supplied.

To get EPO somewhere else, Shane would have to show that he was anemic, or on dialysis. If he was anemic, they would suspend his boxing license. (pre-fight physicals, remember?)



Doping calendars detail 'Sugar' Shane Mosley's EPO use
By Teri Thompson and Nathaniel Vinton
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITERS

Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 9:33 PM

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Mosley told grand jury of EPO useDoping calendars seized in the BALCO raid show that champion boxer Shane Mosley scaled back his use of the notorious doping agent EPO in the two weeks before his Sept. 13 title fight with Oscar De La Hoya, as his blood grew unnaturally thick with oxygen-rich red blood cells.

That corresponds with previous reports that seized medical records showed Mosley’s hematocrit – a measure of red blood cells, and therefore endurance – shooting up 8.2% in just two weeks.

Hematocrit readings rarely fluctuate that much naturally, and usually linger in the low 40s for non-doping men. Anything over 50 will get an Olympic cyclist or marathon runner suspended from competition. Mosley jumped from 44 to 52.2 in two weeks as he prepared for the fight, according to a Sept. 28, 2007 report by Sports Illustrated.

The Daily News reviewed Mosley’s BALCO doping calendars this week, as well as transcripts of his secret testimony before a grand jury on Dec. 11 of that year.

While on the stand in the same San Francisco courthouse where Barry Bonds is due to stand trial next March on charges that he lied to federal agents investigating BALCO, Mosley admitted taking the EPO and steroids purchased from the BALCO lab for $1,850, including $500 in cash.

After advising Mosley to use the drug to boost his endurance, BALCO founder Victor Conte moved the boxer into a “maintenance phase” of less frequent injections so that Mosley didn’t fail a drug test or have a heart attack – a fate that has befallen athletes who use EPO.

Mosley was on a doping binge that summer, taking a potent mix of steroids and EPO to build his strength and stamina right up until his successful fight against Oscar De La Hoya that Sept. 13. Mosley has admitted publicly and in court documents that he took EPO and the designer steroids “the cream” and “the clear”, but says he did not know they were either illegal or banned.

Conte, who is being sued for defamation by Mosley in New York state court, says otherwise.

“Specifically, I explained to Mr. Mosley and Mr. Hudson (Mosley’s trainer at the time) that ‘The Clear’ was an undetectable anabolic steroid and that ‘The Cream’ contained testosterone and epitestosterone,” Conte wrote in a sworn statement filed in the defamation case. “I explained that ‘The Cream’ was primarily to be used as a masking agent. I also explained that EPO increases the production of red blood cells, and therefore Mr. Mosley should take additional dietary supplements that aid in the manufacture of red blood cells, such as iron, vitamin C, vitamin E, folic acid, and vitamin B12. ... There is no question that I informed Mr. Mosley that he was taking the three banned performance enhancing drugs.”[/B]