Zab Judah returns November 17th...

[Slotff]

As it says in EliteSolider's sig, Carlos ruined Zab Judah and Cotto finished him. He does not deserve another title chance yet, even though all of his losses have been more or less competitive. He needs about 3-4 fights, and at least one good name in there, and then he has a legitimate reason for a title shot.

[NeXt In Line]

Every single person Zab has fought, he could have beaten. If he wasn't such an arrogant ****head he could have dominated Tszyu. If he had any ounce of concentration he would have beaten Spinks, as he did in the rematch. He gave Floyd more problems than he's ever had, but couldn't handle the pressure. He simply did not show up for the Baldomir fight, and if he was focused saying "this guy could make me into a joke" he'd have beaten him. An the Cotto fight, I don't attribute it ALL to the low blows, but that affected it, as well as his inability to follow up on his combos.

[-Antonio-]

Well staying busy and beating two journeyman is at least better than nothing. Thats if he wins. He looked good at times in his last fight, but he got hit a lot more than I thought he would.

If he wins, I say put him in with one of the top contenders. I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes the lucky tune-up choice for Oscar.

[WLAD OWNS]

I wanna see the Zab Judah that destroyed the durable Cosmo Rivera, he looked confident and impressive in that fight. If he fought that way against Cotto he definately would have KO'd him, possibly in the first 2 or 3 rounds.

[BmoreBrawler]

you can only get KO'ed so many times before youre skills deteriorate significantly...oh well, zab is a guy who could easily be a cory spinks or mayweather type runner but chooses to attack, so more power to him.

[brently1979]

Brutally loses to Tszyu?
Loses to Spinks.
Loses to Baldomir.
Loses to Mayweather.
Loses to Cotto.


Why does this guy get so many freakin' chances?

He has a lot of fans & people like to see him fight.
It's the same reason DLH & Gatti got a lot of chances.

[PapiShasho]

This guy doesn't deserve these big fights anymore...at BEST he should be considered a gatekeeper, a "toughest fight so far" for upcoming prospects.

Cotto demolished him and stepped all over his heart and will, and he's done at a championship level.

[crillz]

you people can't be serious, Zab is done?? nah, ya are serious ya just crazy.. what makes you think a fighter so young, quick and strong is done? because Miguel Cotto beat him? one of the elite and no longer prospect Welterweights of the world, a world champion fighter, a guy who for damn near half of 30 fights fought past or present world champions and only 5 made it out in one piece, a guy who was able to chase down and pummel the master boxer Paulie Malignaggi? destroyed undefeated fighters in their primes and has a rock solid chin, you mean to tell me that because he lost to that guy he's finished? you guys are so quick to jump the gun until he does some **** to blow ya out the water then you gonna see the same people on here dissing Zab come back like "Zab can do it", stop riding the wagon and look at the facts for a quick second..

Kostya Tszyu beat Zab due to Zab's own arrogance, it wasn't because Tszyu was just some big ass power house (he is though but that wasn't the reason he won)it was because of Zab's wrecklessness, keeping his hands low and not so much that neither because he still does that and beat Spinks doing **** like that but it was him getting knocked down and 1.1 second later he was back up on his feet, knowing he was hurt and the round was close to done, hearing the 10 second warning and still just bouncing back up like it was nothing to try to assure the people "I'm Zab I can't be hurt" instead of staying down until 8 and regrouping, taking his rest and continuing the boxing clinic.. THATS why he lost, he never gave himself a chance to recover and that was HIS fault but it didn't mean he couldn't win..

Spinks beat him because he just didn't step it up and claim his win, he proved that because under rougher circumstances in the guys hometown he ****ed him all up and all it took was an ounce of initiative, he made that clear. against Baldomir even a blind old man who didn't watch the fight could tell you why he lost, my cat could tell you why he lost and it certainly wasn't because Baldomir was some masterful boxer it was because, again, his own arrogance and not because he couldn't have won. against Floyd he just lost his temper and fed into Floyd's mind games, on top of not getting the knockdown scored to his favor and causing all them problems he lost his focus which lost him the fight, doesn't necessarily sound like someone who's done just someone who needs anger management classes, one of the first times I saw Floyd under pressure without his hands being the reason and definitely the first time I saw some in front of Floyd who was faster and went punch for punch with him..

against Cotto he was up against a powerhouse, an unreal fighter who just pummels down his opposition relentlessly, a guy who found his niche at Welterweight and was wayyyyyyy better and stronger than ever due to the weight change and the fights that prepared him to face Judah's style. Cotto is a beast and for most of the early rounds Judah tamed the beast and would have continued to do so but then comes the low blows, more than one low blow which all landed in the worse way a low blow can land, that ****ed his whole mental game up and don't think it didn't hurt him the whole fight threw, it played a BIG part in him losing but it wasn't everything, Cotto did out maneuver him in the later rounds but that **** builds up dogz and that pain doesn't go away, add the low blows plus the cuts and thats a lot to carry against a machine like Cotto, Carlos Quintana being undefeated and coming off the best win of his life couldn't withstand a lesser beating, at least Judah made it to round 11, even hurt Cotto pretty bad and that was only 2 fights ago, you telling me he's done??

I know I just wrote a book here but it pisses me off when I see people kicking Zab while he's down now when ya the same people who was loving him while he was up, had nothing to say while he was doing him but quick as **** to bash him at a down point. Jameel McCline didn't do **** to deserve that title shot and I don't see no one complaining so why all the hate towards Zab, at least ALL his losses could've questionably went his way and then he comes back mad fast after his 1st devastating loss and goes some rounds with a battle tested opponent who was able to take his fight game and survive, now he's on his second comeback fight while Cotto is on his 1st and you mean to tell me he's done? you guys cleary need to re-think your words because it's not a good assessment on Zab Judah, he's an entertaining fighter and doesn't fend off just to win like Mayweather does and did against him, he gives you those "toe-to-toe" battles you guys want him having the skills to out box anyone and ya got the nerve to bash him? give the man his respect and for the record I ain't no personal friend of his or no DIE HARD fan I just respect those who deserve respect and Zab definitely does, it's just too bad ya can't see that.. HELL YEA he deserves another shot and mark my words he's gonna get it.. 100

[Undefeated]

He has a lot of fans & people like to see him fight.
It's the same reason DLH & Gatti got a lot of chances.

DLH is a whole diffrent level. As for Gatti he stayed and slugged with people. Judah doesn't do that.

Judah has been ****d and lost 5 times. He doesn't deserve another shot at a title NOW! Probaly after he has atleast 3 good fights with names or prospects. He had his chances. He blew them.

[Undefeated]

you people can't be serious, Zab is done?? nah, ya are serious ya just crazy.. what makes you think a fighter so young, quick and strong is done? because Miguel Cotto beat him? one of the elite and no longer prospect Welterweights of the world, a world champion fighter, a guy who for damn near half of 30 fights fought past or present world champions and only 5 made it out in one piece, a guy who was able to chase down and pummel the master boxer Paulie Malignaggi? destroyed undefeated fighters in their primes and has a rock solid chin, you mean to tell me that because he lost to that guy he's finished? you guys are so quick to jump the gun until he does some **** to blow ya out the water then you gonna see the same people on here dissing Zab come back like "Zab can do it", stop riding the wagon and look at the facts for a quick second..

Kostya Tszyu beat Zab due to Zab's own arrogance, it wasn't because Tszyu was just some big ass power house (he is though but that wasn't the reason he won)it was because of Zab's wrecklessness, keeping his hands low and not so much that neither because he still does that and beat Spinks doing **** like that but it was him getting knocked down and 1.1 second later he was back up on his feet, knowing he was hurt and the round was close to done, hearing the 10 second warning and still just bouncing back up like it was nothing to try to assure the people "I'm Zab I can't be hurt" instead of staying down until 8 and regrouping, taking his rest and continuing the boxing clinic.. THATS why he lost, he never gave himself a chance to recover and that was HIS fault but it didn't mean he couldn't win..

Spinks beat him because he just didn't step it up and claim his win, he proved that because under rougher circumstances in the guys hometown he ****ed him all up and all it took was an ounce of initiative, he made that clear. against Baldomir even a blind old man who didn't watch the fight could tell you why he lost, my cat could tell you why he lost and it certainly wasn't because Baldomir was some masterful boxer it was because, again, his own arrogance and not because he couldn't have won. against Floyd he just lost his temper and fed into Floyd's mind games, on top of not getting the knockdown scored to his favor and causing all them problems he lost his focus which lost him the fight, doesn't necessarily sound like someone who's done just someone who needs anger management classes, one of the first times I saw Floyd under pressure without his hands being the reason and definitely the first time I saw some in front of Floyd who was faster and went punch for punch with him..

against Cotto he was up against a powerhouse, an unreal fighter who just pummels down his opposition relentlessly, a guy who found his niche at Welterweight and was wayyyyyyy better and stronger than ever due to the weight change and the fights that prepared him to face Judah's style. Cotto is a beast and for most of the early rounds Judah tamed the beast and would have continued to do so but then comes the low blows, more than one low blow which all landed in the worse way a low blow can land, that ****ed his whole mental game up and don't think it didn't hurt him the whole fight threw, it played a BIG part in him losing but it wasn't everything, Cotto did out maneuver him in the later rounds but that **** builds up dogz and that pain doesn't go away, add the low blows plus the cuts and thats a lot to carry against a machine like Cotto, Carlos Quintana being undefeated and coming off the best win of his life couldn't withstand a lesser beating, at least Judah made it to round 11, even hurt Cotto pretty bad and that was only 2 fights ago, you telling me he's done??

I know I just wrote a book here but it pisses me off when I see people kicking Zab while he's down now when ya the same people who was loving him while he was up, had nothing to say while he was doing him but quick as **** to bash him at a down point. Jameel McCline didn't do **** to deserve that title shot and I don't see no one complaining so why all the hate towards Zab, at least ALL his losses could've questionably went his way and then he comes back mad fast after his 1st devastating loss and goes some rounds with a battle tested opponent who was able to take his fight game and survive, now he's on his second comeback fight while Cotto is on his 1st and you mean to tell me he's done? you guys cleary need to re-think your words because it's not a good assessment on Zab Judah, he's an entertaining fighter and doesn't fend off just to win like Mayweather does and did against him, he gives you those "toe-to-toe" battles you guys want him having the skills to out box anyone and ya got the nerve to bash him? give the man his respect and for the record I ain't no personal friend of his or no DIE HARD fan I just respect those who deserve respect and Zab definitely does, it's just too bad ya can't see that.. HELL YEA he deserves another shot and mark my words he's gonna get it.. 100

You've said it yourself. His own arrogance. Judah doesn't take nothing serious. Judah can only fight 5 rounds tops. After that the man just breaks down. He did catch Cotto with some good shots, but he really didn't hurt Cotto that bad. Rewatch the fight and look for yourself. As for the low blows... Pay backs a *****, also Miguel Cotto is a body puncher, you can't blame him.

Judah has been given many chances, right now what he was to do is fight a couple of more fights before he can get another title shot. Who he gonna fight? A rematch with Cotto? I seriously doubt that will happen. Possibly Cintron, Gomez, Margarito or Paul Williams.. Many people out there. Judah needs to convince people that hes back. Not by fighting these bums on ESPN.

If Sugar Ray Leonard makes "The Contender Season 4" I hope it's in the Welterweight division. Put Judah in there. Im pretty sure he can outpoint everyone in 5 rounds. If that's what you think. Ya make Judah sound like hes GOD.

Judah is not finished... But im sure he is finished with challenging world class fighters at the championship level.