Did Team Mayweather Lie About Shoulder Injury?

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  • Addison
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    #21
    Originally posted by DWiens421
    Well actually the discussion isn't ended because 3 judges thought Floyd won, as well as some press row people, some ESPN analysts, etc.

    Thank you for trying to kill off discussion though. If there are any threads that need closed, I'll let you know.

    Also, I'm pretty positive that Floyd complained that his left shoulder was ****ed up after the first fight, because he said he wasn't able to use his jab the way he wanted to. He may have forgotten for the documentary... idk, but he definately said it was his left after the first fight.
    He may have forgotten "..one of the worst pains I've ever felt.." ???
    Last edited by Addison; 09-17-2007, 09:21 PM.

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      #22
      nobody would think that fight was close if the boxer who got a gift wasnt named floyd mayweather jr, the most prominent boxer of the american school of boxing...but everyone is entitled to their opinion...so im not trying to insult anyone with this....

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        #23
        Originally posted by Addison
        He may have forgotten "..the worst pain I've ever felt in my life.." ???
        I thought that was the Carlos Hernandez fight... where he broke his hand and a chill went through his spine.

        Idk, I'm not trying to make excuses, I don't know why it changed from left to right.

        EDIT: I just watched the interview, the quote exactly was, "My last training day, I hurt my rotator cuff in my left shoulder, I couldn't use my jab the way I wanted to."

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          #24
          Originally posted by DWiens421
          I thought that was the Carlos Hernandez fight... where he broke his hand and a chill went through his spine.

          Idk, I'm not trying to make excuses, I don't know why it changed from left to right.

          EDIT: I just watched the interview, the quote exactly was, "My last training day, I hurt my rotator cuff in my left shoulder, I couldn't use my jab the way I wanted to."
          So we have it from his mouth directly.


          In the post fight it was his left shoulder.

          On the TV show it is right shoulder.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Addison
            So we have it from his mouth directly.


            In the post fight it was his left shoulder.

            On the TV show it is right shoulder.
            So no one ever call me a ****ing nuthugger again, I just exposed my boy for lying on the later show.

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              #26
              Originally posted by DWiens421
              So no one ever call me a ****ing nuthugger again, I just exposed my boy for lying on the later show.

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                #27
                If Floyds left shoulder was as messed up as he claimed, he could not have jabbed to the body like he was in the first 4 rounds.'

                Saying the topic is open for discussion because of what the judges said is ******.

                The judges said that Evander Holyfield earned a draw with Lennox Lewis. They said that Pernell Whitaker only earned a draw with JCC.

                Some ringside reporters even thought Antonio Margarito beat Paul Williams.

                If you look at the online scoring results the show during fights, you will find that generally speaking, 20-30% of the voters are blind. Some people managed to find a way to give round 1 to Arturo Gatti, in which he was battered and knocked down by Oscar De La Hoya.

                Just because there are a few people out side of the judges that though Floyd won, doesn't make it a topic open for debate. Floyd clearly lost that fight any way you watch it.

                You have to litterally rob JLC of rounds, then give them to Floyd to make Floyd the victor.

                The official scores of 116-111 115-111 115-111 are absurd. Even being very very generous towards Floyd, you cant come ANYWHERE near those scores.

                Floyd was effective when he was jabbing to the body in the early rounds. Once he stopped doing that, he started getting a beating.

                I admire the heart Floyd showed in the last round when he came out and stood toe to toe with Castillo. I think he showed the heart of a champion at that moment, but he didn't win that fight any more than JCC drew with Pernell Whitaker.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by shawn_
                  If Floyds left shoulder was as messed up as he claimed, he could not have jabbed to the body like he was in the first 4 rounds.'

                  Saying the topic is open for discussion because of what the judges said is ******.

                  The judges said that Evander Holyfield earned a draw with Lennox Lewis. They said that Pernell Whitaker only earned a draw with JCC.

                  Some ringside reporters even thought Antonio Margarito beat Paul Williams.

                  If you look at the online scoring results the show during fights, you will find that generally speaking, 20-30% of the voters are blind. Some people managed to find a way to give round 1 to Arturo Gatti, in which he was battered and knocked down by Oscar De La Hoya.

                  Just because there are a few people out side of the judges that though Floyd won, doesn't make it a topic open for debate. Floyd clearly lost that fight any way you watch it.

                  You have to litterally rob JLC of rounds, then give them to Floyd to make Floyd the victor.

                  The official scores of 116-111 115-111 115-111 are absurd. Even being very very generous towards Floyd, you cant come ANYWHERE near those scores.

                  Floyd was effective when he was jabbing to the body in the early rounds. Once he stopped doing that, he started getting a beating.

                  I admire the heart Floyd showed in the last round when he came out and stood toe to toe with Castillo. I think he showed the heart of a champion at that moment, but he didn't win that fight any more than JCC drew with Pernell Whitaker.
                  I mean, I actually gave reason why the scores could have differed from yours. Blocking punches, how clean each fighters' blows landed.

                  I had it 114-112 Mayweather, but that's just me.

                  And shutup about Floyd not being able to jab with a ****ed up rotator cuff, remember Lacy vs. Tsypko II? Lacy tore his rotator cuff in the second round of that fight, and won a (controversial) decision, using both hands.

                  I hate it when people say end of discussion when they haven't adequately examined all the parts of the issue they are discussing. If you can answer back all my **** with **** that makes sense, then maybe that's the end of discussion, but if you can't, then you don't have a bulletproof reason why your view is right, meaning there is room for discussion.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                    nobody would think that fight was close if the boxer who got a gift wasnt named floyd mayweather jr, the most prominent boxer of the american school of boxing...but everyone is entitled to their opinion...so im not trying to insult anyone with this....
                    Lol That's not the case I saw the fight multiple times and there are many close rounds that could have gone either way. However I am not going to continue further because you seem very close to exploding into a profanity laced rant, budd.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                      Lol That's not the case I saw the fight multiple times and there are many close rounds that could have gone either way. However I am not going to continue further because you seem very close to exploding into a profanity laced rant, budd.
                      nah i like floyd and everything but he plain and simple didnt win that fight....... floyd fans should just accept it and say he came back and won the rematch.....healed and in clear fashion, basically what i said in my first post....

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