Best Post-Lewis Heavyweight Champ/Titleholder

**Randall_Hopkirk** · 09-17-2007, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by Thread Stealer

Who is the best since Lummox?

I think Wlad.

Vitali. Closely followed by Wlad.

**Froch You** · 09-17-2007, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Randall_Hopkirk

Vitali. Closely followed by Wlad.

I'd say Wlad because Vitali has spent most of this time injured or inactive while Wlad has regained a belt and defended it a couple of times. Although when Vitali fought I never got nervous cuz I knew if the **** hit the fan he could fight through it. But when I watch Wlad fight I almost have a damn heart attack especially during the Peter fight

**THe TRiNiTY** · 09-17-2007, 11:54 AM

Vitali.. He defended against the better competition, in my personal opinion. Wlad has beaten Ray Austin (pathetic) and then two guys that he already fought. One that he beat in the first fight and the other against a guy who SHOULD have beat, but just fought the wrong kind of fight against. I like Wlad and think he COULD (has as good a shot as anyone in the division today) of cleaning up the division. I'm just saying, other than Calvin Brock, and Sam Peter (who someone could make the argument, that before Sam had even reached his prime, gave Wlad a pretty good ass kicking) his brother just edges him out, to me.

**-Hyperion-** · 09-17-2007, 11:55 AM

Wlad obviously......

**Vladimir303** · 09-17-2007, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by C-Drone

Vitali.. He defended against the better competition, in my personal opinion. Wlad has beaten Ray Austin (pathetic) and then two guys that he already fought. One that he beat in the first fight and the other against a guy who SHOULD have beat, but just fought the wrong kind of fight against. I like Wlad and think he COULD (has as good a shot as anyone in the division today) of cleaning up the division. I'm just saying, other than Calvin Brock, and Sam Peter (who someone could make the argument, that before Sam had even reached his prime, gave Wlad a pretty good ass kicking) his brother just edges him out, to me.

What are you talking about. Who did Vitali beat in his title reign? The fat out of shape Kirk Johnson who already lost to the great John Ruiz. Danny williams who knocked out a fizzled out mike tyson?? Wlad fought the better competition.

**Verstyle** · 09-17-2007, 12:12 PM

Wlad obviously.Seems like ppl are still tickling a inactive,injured Vitali's nuts.

**THe TRiNiTY** · 09-17-2007, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by vladimir303

What are you talking about. Who did Vitali beat in his title reign? The fat out of shape Kirk Johnson who already lost to the great John Ruiz. Danny williams who knocked out a fizzled out mike tyson?? Wlad fought the better competition.

I would be wrong in the way I said that. Wlad MAY have fought equal or even better competition, but Vitali fought his fights like a champion, defending his title. Wlad on the other hand, fought like someone trying to prove something and EVEN after all that he's fought, he still has TONS to prove. I would rather have said, Vitali proved more with what he did and the people he fought. At the time of his reign, there wasn't much to fight and when he finally had someone to fight, he started to fall apart. But neither has done much to solidify a GREAT reign, I just think that being a champion has a lot to do with how you win fights, not just who you fight.

**-Hyperion-** · 09-17-2007, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by C-Drone

I would be wrong in the way I said that. Wlad MAY have fought equal or even better competition, but Vitali fought his fights like a champion, defending his title. Wlad on the other hand, fought like someone trying to prove something and EVEN after all that he's fought, he still has TONS to prove. I would rather have said, Vitali proved more with what he did and the people he fought. At the time of his reign, there wasn't much to fight and when he finally had someone to fight, he started to fall apart. But neither has done much to solidify a GREAT reign, I just think that being a champion has a lot to do with how you win fights, not just who you fight.

that made no sense at all, why dont you just say:

im still high on vitali cus he was PWNING Big Len for 4 rounds in a 6 round fight in which he got stopped....

**Vladimir303** · 09-17-2007, 12:28 PM

[QUOTE=C-Drone;2661755]I would be wrong in the way I said that. Wlad MAY have fought equal or even better competition, but Vitali fought his fights like a champion, defending his title. Wlad on the other hand, fought like someone trying to prove something and EVEN after all that he's fought, he still has TONS to prove. I would rather have said, Vitali proved more with what he did and the people he fought. At the time of his reign, there wasn't much to fight and when he finally had someone to fight, he started to fall apart. But neither has done much to solidify a GREAT reign, I just think that being a champion has a lot to do with how you win fights, not just who you fight.[/QUOTE]

Yea well Wlad has been knocking everybody out since his last loss to Brewster other then Samuel Peter where he showed he can come back after being trouble so I say he is doing all right in both categories

Best Post-Lewis Heavyweight Champ/Titleholder