Boxing Scene: Hatton's Chances

**Oasis_Lad** · 09-11-2007, 04:51 PM

Bertrand Arthur William Russell, 3rd Earl Russell, OM, FRS, (18 May 1872 – 2 February 1970), was a Welsh philosopher, historian, logician, mathematician, advocate for social reform, pacifist, and prominent atheist.

A prolific writer, he was also a populariser of philosophy and a commentator on a large variety of topics. Continuing a family tradition in political affairs, he was a prominent anti-war activist, championing free trade between nations and anti-imperialism.[1][2]

Russell was born at the height of Britain's economic and political ascendancy. He died of influenza nearly a century later, at a time when the British Empire had all but vanished, its power dissipated by two world wars and the end of the imperial system. As one of the world's best-known intellectuals, Russell's voice carried great moral authority, even into his death.[3] Among his political activities, Russell was a vigorous proponent of nuclear disarmament and an outspoken critic of the American military intervention in Vietnam.

In 1950, Russell was made a Nobel Laureate in Literature, "in recognition of his varied and significant writings in which he champions humanitarian ideals and freedom of thought"

Bertrand Russell was born on 18 May 1872 at Trellech, Monmouthshire, Wales into an aristocratic family.

His paternal grandfather, John Russell, 1st Earl Russell, was the second son of John Russell, 6th Duke of Bedford, and had twice been asked to form a government by Queen Victoria, serving her as Prime Minister in the 1840s and 1860s.

The Russells had been prominent for several centuries in Britain before this, coming to power and the peerage with the rise of the Tudor dynasty. They established themselves as one of Britain's leading Whig (*******) families, and participated in every great political event from the Dissolution of the Monasteries in 1536-40 to the Glorious Revolution in 1688-9 to the Great Reform Act in 1832.

Russell's mother Catherine (née Stanley) was also from an aristocratic family, and was the sister of Rosalind Howard, Countess of Carlisle.

Russell's parents were quite radical for their times—Russell's father, Viscount Amberley, was an atheist and consented to his wife's affair with their children's tutor, the biologist Douglas Spalding. Both were early advocates of birth control at a time when this was considered scandalous.

John Stuart Mill, the Utilitarian philosopher, stood as Russell's godfather. Mill died the following year, but his writings had a great impact upon Russell's life.

**Wiley Hyena** · 09-11-2007, 04:55 PM

Bertrand Russell also believed that JFK assasination was the result of a conspiracy...Don't forget that.

**Oasis_Lad** · 09-11-2007, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Wiley Hyena

Bertrand Russell also believed that JFK assasination was the result of a conspiracy...Don't forget that.

Russell had two siblings: Frank (nearly seven years older than Bertrand), and Rachel (four years older). In June 1874 Russell's mother died of diphtheria, followed shortly by Rachel, and in January 1876 his father also died of bronchitis following a long period of depression. Frank and Bertrand were placed in the care of their staunchly Victorian grandparents, who lived at Pembroke Lodge in Richmond Park. John Russell, 1st Earl Russell, his grandfather, died in 1878, and was remembered by Russell as a kindly old man in a wheelchair. As a result, his widow, the Countess Russell (n�e Lady Frances Elliot), was the dominant family figure for the rest of Russell's childhood and youth.

The countess was from a Scottish Presbyterian family, and successfully petitioned a British court to set aside a provision in Amberley's will requiring the children to be raised as agnostics. Despite her religious conservatism, she held progressive views in other areas (accepting Darwinism and supporting Irish Home Rule), and her influence on Bertrand Russell's outlook on social justice and standing up for principle remained with him throughout his life - her favourite Bible verse, 'Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil.' (Exodus 23:2), became his mantra. However, the atmosphere at Pembroke Lodge was one of frequent prayer, emotional repression and formality - Frank reacted to this with open rebellion, but the young Bertrand learned to hide his feelings.

Russell's adolescence was thus very lonely, and he often contemplated suicide. He remarked in his autobiography that his keenest interests were in sex, religion and mathematics, and that only the wish to know more mathematics kept him from suicide [5]. He was educated at home by a series of tutors,[4] and he spent countless hours in his grandfather's library.

His brother Frank introduced him to Euclid, which transformed Russell's life.

Russell won a scholarship to read for the Mathematics Tripos at Trinity College, Cambridge, and commenced his studies there in 1890. He became acquainted with the younger G.E. Moore and came under the influence of Alfred North Whitehead, who recommended him to the Cambridge Apostles. He quickly distinguished himself in mathematics and philosophy, graduating with a B.A. in the former subject in 1893 and adding a fellowship in the latter in 1895.

Russell first met the American Quaker, Alys Pearsall Smith, when he was seventeen years old. He became a friend of the Pearsall Smith family -- they knew him primarily as 'Lord John's grandson' and enjoyed showing him off -- and travelled with them to the continent; it was in their company that Bertrand visited the Paris Exhibition of 1889 and was able to climb the Eiffel Tower soon after it was completed.

He soon fell in love with the puritanical, high-minded Alys, who was a graduate of Bryn Mawr College near Philadelphia, and, contrary to his grandmother's wishes, he married her in December 1894. Their marriage began to fall apart in 1902 when it occurred to Russell, while he was out on his bicycle, that he no longer loved her; they divorced nineteen years later, after a lengthy period of separation. During this period, Russell had passionate (and often simultaneous) affairs with a number of women, including Lady Ottoline Morrell and the actress, Lady Constance Malleson.

Alys pined for him for these years and continued to love Russell for the rest of her life.

**Wiley Hyena** · 09-11-2007, 05:03 PM

lol......a very interesting man, indeed. But the issue is whether or not Hatton has a realistic chance of taking out the Pretty Boy. Consensus of opinion has changed to indicate that he does.

**Oasis_Lad** · 09-11-2007, 05:07 PM

If i am being honest; i don't rate Russell much. I prefer the Pretty boy's social comments and philosophical thinkings on society.

**Rockin'** · 09-11-2007, 05:08 PM

Hatton is a strong kid, I have no doubts about that. The thing that I doubt for Hatton is that Floyds just going to stand there and let Ricky run in on him. Floyd isnt going to fight the throw-hold-hold-hold game with Ricky. Its going to be Ricky throw, Floyd takes a step in either direction, besides forward, with his jab firing Rickys eyes into the clouds. I dont see Floyd standing with Ricky until Hatton becomes fatigued. At that point Floyd will turn it on and fire Ricky up. Floyd smokes him in a late round stoppage..................Rockin'

**kayjay** · 09-11-2007, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by OASIS_LAD

Bertrand Arthur William Russell, 3rd Earl Russell, OM, FRS, (18 May 1872 � 2 February 1970), was a Welsh philosopher, historian, logician, mathematician, advocate for social reform, pacifist, and prominent atheist.

A prolific writer, he was also a populariser of philosophy and a commentator on a large variety of topics. Continuing a family tradition in political affairs, he was a prominent anti-war activist, championing free trade between nations and anti-imperialism.[1][2]

Russell was born at the height of Britain's economic and political ascendancy. He died of influenza nearly a century later, at a time when the British Empire had all but vanished, its power dissipated by two world wars and the end of the imperial system. As one of the world's best-known intellectuals, Russell's voice carried great moral authority, even into his death.[3] Among his political activities, Russell was a vigorous proponent of nuclear disarmament and an outspoken critic of the American military intervention in Vietnam.

In 1950, Russell was made a Nobel Laureate in Literature, "in recognition of his varied and significant writings in which he champions humanitarian ideals and freedom of thought"

Bertrand Russell was born on 18 May 1872 at Trellech, Monmouthshire, Wales into an aristocratic family.

His paternal grandfather, John Russell, 1st Earl Russell, was the second son of John Russell, 6th Duke of Bedford, and had twice been asked to form a government by Queen Victoria, serving her as Prime Minister in the 1840s and 1860s.

The Russells had been prominent for several centuries in Britain before this, coming to power and the peerage with the rise of the Tudor dynasty. They established themselves as one of Britain's leading Whig (*******) families, and participated in every great political event from the Dissolution of the Monasteries in 1536-40 to the Glorious Revolution in 1688-9 to the Great Reform Act in 1832.

Russell's mother Catherine (n�e Stanley) was also from an aristocratic family, and was the sister of Rosalind Howard, Countess of Carlisle.

Russell's parents were quite radical for their times�Russell's father, Viscount Amberley, was an atheist and consented to his wife's affair with their children's tutor, the biologist Douglas Spalding. Both were early advocates of birth control at a time when this was considered scandalous.

John Stuart Mill, the Utilitarian philosopher, stood as Russell's godfather. Mill died the following year, but his writings had a great impact upon Russell's life.

And you know I love me some B-Russ

**Wiley Hyena** · 09-11-2007, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Rockin'

Hatton is a strong kid, I have no doubts about that. The thing that I doubt for Hatton is that Floyds just going to stand there and let Ricky run in on him. Floyd isnt going to fight the throw-hold-hold-hold game with Ricky. Its going to be Ricky throw, Floyd takes a step in either direction, besides forward, with his jab firing Rickys eyes into the clouds. I dont see Floyd standing with Ricky until Hatton becomes fatigued. At that point Floyd will turn it on and fire Ricky up. Floyd smokes him in a late round stoppage..................Rockin'

Well, is Floyd gonna change anything? Most opinions around here say he always does the same thing, step away and fire and step away,,,etc...

**mick66** · 09-11-2007, 05:49 PM

This thread has some really interesting content..I'm just too pissed to read it...

Boxing Scene: Hatton's Chances