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  • STEELHEAD
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    #101
    Originally posted by RunW/Knives
    A whole slew of confident people actually waging on Pavlik.

    In my book, that's a terrible idea. I don't think he's on Taylor's level.....and the difference in speed is going to be incredible right off the bat.
    i want pavlik to win and hope he can step up his learning curve because taylor
    is on a higher level.don't think a lot of you are considering that point enough.

    and ouma is on a higher level than pavlik.
    remember how good everyone thought miranda was.including me.
    pavlik gets hit alot.

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    • freedom213
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      #102
      Originally posted by steelhead
      i want pavlik to win and hope he can step up his learning curve because taylor
      is on a higher level.don't think a lot of you are considering that point enough.

      and ouma is on a higher level than pavlik.
      remember how good everyone thought miranda was.including me.
      pavlik gets hit alot.
      Ouma is not on a higher level than Pavlik

      Pavliks big advantage in this fight is simple. Power, and accuracy. JT is not a slick guy who gets in and out all night. He is a guy who opens up to be hit when he throws himself. He also doesnt seem to like to get hit. I noticed this in the Spinks fight, I think it was the 2nd round when Spinks zipped him with a straight left. He visibly flinched after the punch like damn that really hurt! It probably did but it seemed like he was unwilling, except in spots to really open up on Spinks and overly cautious. How do you think he will react when Pavlik lands a hard right on him? If he starts backing up it will not go well for him. I will be watching for this. Jermain also seems to have a little problem with swelling of the eyes. Maybe this is from cutting weight so hard but Wright had his eye pretty much closed.

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      • Kball15
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        #103
        Originally posted by steelhead
        i want pavlik to win and hope he can step up his learning curve because taylor
        is on a higher level.don't think a lot of you are considering that point enough.

        and ouma is on a higher level than pavlik.
        remember how good everyone thought miranda was.including me.
        pavlik gets hit alot.
        eesh, you lost all the credibility you gained from that first statement, with that second statement...

        Pavlik actually has a pretty good D, and as good a chin as Ouma has, i would definetly pick Pavlik to destroy Ouma, where as taylor decisioned him and landed some awsome shots.

        I dont think these two guys are on seperate levels at all. This is almost an even fight IMO. I think that the disadvatages Pavlik has in Speed and footwork, are equalled by Pavliks ability to cut off the ring, his decent defense, and his nonstop pressure.

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        • freedom213
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          #104
          Originally posted by Kball15
          eesh, you lost all the credibility you gained from that first statement, with that second statement...

          Pavlik actually has a pretty good D, and as good a chin as Ouma has, i would definetly pick Pavlik to destroy Ouma, where as taylor decisioned him and landed some awsome shots.

          I dont think these two guys are on seperate levels at all. This is almost an even fight IMO. I think that the disadvatages Pavlik has in Speed and footwork, are equalled by Pavliks ability to cut off the ring, his decent defense, and his nonstop pressure.
          whatever criticism can be layed on Miranda you cant take away from the fact that the guy has a first class chin. I dont see any guys at 160 standin up to an assault like the one pavlik put on Edison.Brutal plus pavlik's body work was very impressive and you could see miranda's legs go after he was hit in the body.

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          • mr.anthrax
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            #105
            Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7
            Naw its cool that you're a fan and all,but geez.You make the nuthugging Mayweather and Tyson fans look unbiased. The dude got some kos ok.He beat an weight drained Miranda,ok. Who else that is a top Contender has he beaten?
            Fans of Pavlik are more annoying than the fans of Mayweather? I know there are some cool Floyd fans, but those people have become more difficult to find. Anywhere.

            Originally posted by jai mari078
            Whao had taylor beaten beofre he fought B-Hop? It's the same situation, except that Taylor was pedigreed along.
            Thank you.

            Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7
            Well besides Joppy,I guess no one huge,but he never got threated as if he's the Mike Tyson/Ali of the division. You guys are taking this Pavlik talk alittle too far.As if he's the Undisputed Champion and not Taylor. I havnt ever seen an little known guy take so punch spotlight from an elite fighter thats undisputed,undefeated and has fought elites,EVER!
            Dude, you just don't get it. Damn, I don't even know if I can spell it out for you. In my opinion, Taylor has become very difficult to like in the last few years. If you really can't understand that there is a multitude of reasons for that, I just don't have the desire to type it all out.

            I like Pavlik alot. I will still find him to be worthy of my interest both as a boxer, and most certainly as a person, even if he should lose to Taylor on the 29th.

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            • Verstyle
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              #106
              Originally posted by mr.anthrax
              Fans of Pavlik are more annoying than the fans of Mayweather? I know there are some cool Floyd fans, but those people have become more difficult to find. Anywhere.



              Thank you.



              Dude, you just don't get it. Damn, I don't even know if I can spell it out for you. In my opinion, Taylor has become very difficult to like in the last few years. If you really can't understand that there is a multitude of reasons for that, I just don't have the desire to type it all out.

              I like Pavlik alot. I will still find him to be worthy of my interest both as a boxer, and most certainly as a person, even if he should lose to Taylor on the 29th.
              Thank you.......

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              • C.Y.
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                #107
                Originally posted by shawn_
                The problem with deciding how good a fighter is based on his resume is the fact that you are completely neglecting to analyze the fighter himself.

                Trying to make a prediction based on numbers is missing the point of boxing.

                On paper, Taylor looks like a really solid fighter. Undefeated, good opponents, decent knock-out percentage.

                You have to look past the statistics. Taylor is a fighter that has been VERY carefully managed. His management team has kept him away from power puncher for as long as they realistically could.

                They matched him up with GOOD, and I emphasize GOOD, fighters that he could dismantle with his Jab, which is why it was such a prevalent weapon earlier in his career.

                His last 3 fights have been against southpaws. This wasn't by accident. Taylors team chose light hitting southpaws because they would have a much harder time capitalizing on his increasingly low left hand.

                His management team isn't ******. They fully realize that if Taylor loses, their paychecks get much smaller. Consequently, they have done a very good job of putting him in with GOOD fighters that suit his style.

                Unfortunately for Taylor management team, they didn't get to pick Pavlik. Pavlik is not a hand picked opponent, and Taylor will be in for a very hard night.

                After being visibly stunned several times against the feather-fisted Cory Spinks, I personally have a very hard time seeing Taylor come out of the fight on his feet.



                Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                Yes, I agree that Pavlik has a very good chance against Taylor. Taylor comes across as a fighter that's been overprotected. On the other hand, Pavlik came up from the trenches. I'll take Pavlik in a surprisingly easy win.
                wow you call fighting against bernard hopkins twice and winky wright being overprotective??
                ok its official
                you know what nevermind
                no comment

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