Are the lower weight classes strictly for the diehards?

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  • Kobe Bryant
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    #21
    no................

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    • kayjay
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      #22
      Originally posted by The_Bringer
      Any thoughts on the current Heavyweight division, and how and if it manages to hold your attention? Aside from Klitschko of course. I seriously don't like watching any other Heavyweight in this "era" because they lack the overall finesse and technique that the lower weight guys have.
      I think Ruslan Chagaev is one of the most well-rounded boxers in all of boxing. He's technically as solid as most of the guys everyone here raves about who are 100 lbs less and is as good a boxer as there's been in the HW division for a long time. One of the best counterpunchers in all of boxing, but he also has great power and a very good jab.

      Most of the others have glaring weaknesses, bu I like Sam Peter. He's not a crude clubber like people assume. He counterpunched with James Toney, but he's also 250+ lbs and strong as can be.

      Vitali and Wlad of course.

      After that there's a big dropoff, but most divisions have a dropoff after about 4-5 guys.

      Povetkin's ok but I think his limitations are pretty clear

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        #23
        Originally posted by kayjay
        I think Ruslan Chagaev is one of the most well-rounded boxers in all of boxing. He's technically as solid as most of the guys everyone here raves about who are 100 lbs less and is as good a boxer as there's been in the HW division for a long time. One of the best counterpunchers in all of boxing, but he also has great power and a very good jab.

        Most of the others have glaring weaknesses, bu I like Sam Peter. He's not a crude clubber like people assume. He counterpunched with James Toney, but he's also 250+ lbs and strong as can be.

        Vitali and Wlad of course.

        After that there's a big dropoff, but most divisions have a dropoff after about 4-5 guys.

        Povetkin's ok but I think his limitations are pretty clear
        We shall agree to disagree on the lower weight divisions.

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          #24
          Originally posted by The_Bringer
          We shall agree to disagree on the lower weight divisions.
          I don't really have a problem with them, I just can't get excited. I didn't mean to be hyperbolic with the WNBA comment, I meant that sincerely. The women play well and I can acknowledge that, but something always tells you it's just women, not the real thing. Same for me with little guys. Maybe I mention it a lot, but that's only 'cause people give p4p lists and want five or six guys on it from the lower divisions. There are more than ten bigger guys

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          • -Antonio-
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            #25
            I love the lower weight divisions. I dont think of how small they are. I just admire the skill and will, and lower divisons usually have faster paced fights.

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              #26
              Originally posted by -Antonio-
              I love the lower weight divisions. I dont think of how small they are. I just admire the skill and will, and lower divisons usually have faster paced fights.
              And more often than not, the lower weight divisions become a battleground of heart and determination. That's the thing I admire most, aside from the technical skill. It's the way those guys absolutely refuse to be denied, no matter the cost. I just don't see that heart very often upwards of Junior Middleweight.

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                #27
                in the US that maybe the case but not necessary the rest of the world, Asian fans usually have a healty diet of lower weight fights ...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by JOM'S
                  in the US that maybe the case but not necessary the rest of the world, Asian fans usually have a healty diet of lower weight fights ...
                  Yeah, I know it's a lot more popular in other Countries such as Mexico, the Philippines, Nicaragua, etc.... Here in the States though, a lot of people overlook it and I feel they are relly missing out. Of course, I don't have to tell you that, I'm sure you've seen more lower weight fights than even I have.

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                    #29
                    PRESENTLY (you can't say from the 40's until early 90's the heavyweight division wasnt one of if not the best division in boxing) most of the great great fighters are in 154 and lower to be honest.

                    above 154 most of the divisions have one great fighter mowing down the rest (excluding a VERY select few divisons).

                    154 and lower is filled with the best in business presently.

                    at 154 and lower you have:
                    Jermain Taylor
                    Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                    Antiono Margarito
                    Paul Williams
                    Miguel Cotto
                    Shane Mosley
                    Paulie Malignaggi
                    The diaz' who rule the lightweight division (as far as belts go)
                    Juan Manuel Marquez
                    Manny Pacquiao
                    Ricky Hatton
                    Oscar De La Hoya
                    Kelly Pavlik
                    Edison Miranda

                    not all of those i'd consider "great" exactly but its a plain and simple fact most of the better fighters in this sport are at 154 or lower and the most of the biggest names in this sport are at 154 or lower.

                    look at all the great fights this fall how many are above 154...one...

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                    • JOM'S
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The_Bringer
                      Yeah, I know it's a lot more popular in other Countries such as Mexico, the Philippines, Nicaragua, etc.... Here in the States though, a lot of people overlook it and I feel they are relly missing out. Of course, I don't have to tell you that, I'm sure you've seen more lower weight fights than even I have.
                      you right bro, but sometimes we are also "missing out" on the bigger/heavier weight classes ...

                      "Thrilla in Manila" was a great spectacle during the time of our fathers and Tyson had defense(s) in Japan, I hope they bring more "heavy weight quality world championship fights" in Asia...

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