Kushner Pushing For Klitschko-Tua Bout

[dmaclv]

You mean dodge Klitshcko's jabs? If you eat his jabs then you are going to the canvas before him. How can someone lose more energy hitting you with jabs then you getting hit by them? Anyway, even with a prime Tua, I can see this fight going like the Tua-Lewis fight. Although Wlad has a higher probability of getting KO'd.

just watch the Brewster-Klitschko fight. He ate Klit's jab for rounds, finally got in one good punch and boom done. It's not a high probability Klit keeps his distance and 1-2 jabs Tua is done.

[neils7147933]

give Tua some credit, his punches hurt like hell no doubt still, and if thers one problem with Wlad, hes a little bit brittle. Id say that Wlad gets by like 120-108 or maybe Wlad might lose a round or two...but Tua is a tough bastard, and I would say that Tua's defence is tighter than Brewster's and he at least used to have better stamina...Id be surprised if Tua got finished, even at this stage of his career. quite a pointless fight right now, in any case...

but **** this! Tua aint done anything at all to earn a title. If Wlad is going to make a non-unification fight at this point, he ought to fight Valuev. yall KNOW it would be interesting to see how Wlad would fight that huge bastard. I dont see why not...Valuev is fighting very soon, aint he? he could at least get a title shot coming off a win over a an undefeated fighter...

It all adds up! Valuev is the highest rated guy by the IBF(excluding the people Wlad has already beaten recently...), the WBC belt is going to be held up forever with Peter, Vitali and MCCall all in line, Tony Thompson has to kick the ass of the winner of Holyfield/Imbragimov for the WBO cause hes in line, and Chagaev...I hope hes ok. and hey...Valuev said he definately wants a title shot.
please Wlad, fight either Chagaev or Valuev next, these are the only fights that make sense and can be made at the time.

Wlad mentioned Rahman as an opponent, fought Brock, mentioned Holyfield, fought Brewster... I'd don't think he's real keen on fighting foreign fighters right now. I think he's still trying to "get over" with the boxing public and he realizes that he needs to fight an American heavyweight that a casual boxing fan recognizes to do so - unless he can get a unification bout - then the novelty of the belts can help sell a fight. Remember, Wlad's fights aren't doing well ratings-wise on HBO. He's never headlined a PPV. Valuev is only a good fight if people think he stands a chance - and he's not unbeaten anymore, nor has he beaten a top contender.

[Ironside]

just watch the Brewster-Klitschko fight. He ate Klit's jab for rounds, finally got in one good punch and boom done. It's not a high probability Klit keeps his distance and 1-2 jabs Tua is done.

You can't be serious, obviously there was something wrong with Klitshcko in that fight. I really do believe he was drugged. If you see the fight, Klitshcko demolished Brewster for 4 rounds. Brewster barely hit him in those 4 rounds. Then all of a sudden in the 5th Wlad has trouble standing up. Doesn't seem like a normal thing to happen. And let me point out that Wlad was holding on for dear life hugging over and over in the 5th without even getting hit. He was not himself, obviously he got hit by the flush Brewster threw because he was so out of it. He actually got up, then fell again because of fatigue. I think there is something fishy in that fight. Maybe you should rewatch it and look for the things im saying. I have never seen anything like that fight.

[neils7147933]

You can't be serious, obviously there was something wrong with Klitshcko in that fight. I really do believe he was drugged. If you see the fight, Klitshcko demolished Brewster for 4 rounds. Brewster barely hit him in those 4 rounds. Then all of a sudden in the 5th Wlad has trouble standing up. Doesn't seem like a normal thing to happen. And let me point out that Wlad was holding on for dear life hugging over and over in the 5th without even getting hit. He was not himself, obviously he got hit by the flush Brewster threw because he was so out of it. He actually got up, then fell again because of fatigue. I think there is something fishy in that fight. Maybe you should rewatch it and look for the things im saying. I have never seen anything like that fight.

You mean like the Krazy Horse fight last Saturday? You should post all that nonsense in one of the two dozen threads dedicated to that. Klitschko can be rocked - we've seen it before - and seen him run out of gas BEFORE the Brewster fight.

Tua, though, has never been KO'd and won't be by Wlad, unless it's a stoppage while he's still on his feet...

[Ironside]

You mean like the Krazy Horse fight last Saturday? You should post all that nonsense in one of the two dozen threads dedicated to that. Klitschko can be rocked - we've seen it before - and seen him run out of gas BEFORE the Brewster fight.

Tua, though, has never been KO'd and won't be by Wlad, unless it's a stoppage while he's still on his feet...

Would you please care to show me one fight where Klitshcko gasses out by the end of the 4th round? If you show that then I withdraw everything I say.

[neils7147933]

Would you please care to show me one fight where Klitshcko gasses out by the end of the 4th round? If you show that then I withdraw everything I say.

I didn't say 4th round. But he did have similar trouble vs. Purritty.

And that left that Brewster landed is what made him unable to stand, whether he's breathing hard or not.

Also If TOS lands something big against Wlad in their fight, we see something similar. He was so shaky that night, Williamson got a KD...

[Ironside]

Well yea, we all know he has a weak chin, but how can you honestly believe Wlad got "tired" in the Brewster fight. It was way too early for any fighter to be that fatigue. He was dominating, there was no reason for him to be like that.

[neils7147933]

Well yea, we all know he has a weak chin, but how can you honestly believe Wlad got "tired" in the Brewster fight. It was way too early for any fighter to be that fatigue. He was dominating, there was no reason for him to be like that.

I think the "tired" gets too exaggerated and the "left hook" gets lost in the shuffle.

He was trying to finish Brewster early - I think it was the 2nd when he knocked him down? - and when he couldn't do that, he got into some trouble. 8 or 9 times out of 10 he probably beats Lamon (especially when he's had a year and a half layoff lol) but that night it didn't happen.

Wladimir has upped his training, at least in the quality of his training, and it started to be apparent in the Castillo fight. I don't expect him to let Tua get close enough to land anything that bothers him; it might resemble Klit-Peter but not likely Brewster-Klit I...

[GranTorino]

Can Tua even reach Wlad? Its going to look like Wlad practicing his jab on a heavy bag.

It'll be Wlad/Peter all over again, but without the knockdowns.

[neils7147933]

Wlad mentioned Rahman as an opponent, fought Brock, mentioned Holyfield, fought Brewster... I'd don't think he's real keen on fighting foreign fighters right now. I think he's still trying to "get over" with the boxing public and he realizes that he needs to fight an American heavyweight that a casual boxing fan recognizes to do so - unless he can get a unification bout - then the novelty of the belts can help sell a fight. Remember, Wlad's fights aren't doing well ratings-wise on HBO. He's never headlined a PPV. Valuev is only a good fight if people think he stands a chance - and he's not unbeaten anymore, nor has he beaten a top contender.

LOL - reading over this, someone might accuse me of not knowing David Tua was foreign.... Tua is known by a number of American fight fans through his long career and is not in the same boat as someone with a hard-to-pronounce name ending in a 'v' or 'n' with a resume of other folks the casual fan doesn't recognize...