lennox lewis and vitali klitschko

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i think its strange people keep comparing the outcome of a tua/wlad fight to the tua/lewis fight, wlad and lewis have alot on common in they're fighting styles, only lewis did it twice as good ...

EDIT: sorry i meant wlad in the title

[kayjay]

i think its strange people keep comparing the outcome of a tua/wlad fight to the tua/lewis fight, wlad and lewis have alot on common in they're fighting styles, only lewis did it twice as good ...

EDIT: sorry i meant wlad in the title

Nah, Wlad has surpassed Lewis is ability, he does everything much better than Lennox did, and is the naturally superior athlete as well as the more technical boxer between them. Lewis had roughly similar power in his right but nowhere near the power in Wlad's left. Wlad's jab is better than anybody's, Lennox couldn't jab anywhere near Wlad's league. Wlad is faster with either hand and has sharper instincts. Wlad punches from a greater varaiety of angles, and can do things Lennox wouldn't even think of (like quadruple hook in a flash). Chins are roughly equal, Wlad probably has more heart. Wlad is bigger also, and Lennox couldn't handle someone his own size.

Wlad > Len by a country mile

[Ironside]

I think Lewis is better than Wlad. Although it would be pretty tough to call. Lewis is better then Wlad on the inside, he fought smaller guys all his career. Which is why he destroyed guys like Tyson and Tua. While Wlad would probably beat them, if Tyson or Tua got on the inside, it would mean trouble for Wlad. As for Lewis vs. Wlad, I really see it going either way.

[!!Captain]

Nah, Wlad has surpassed Lewis is ability, he does everything much better than Lennox did, and is the naturally superior athlete as well as the more technical boxer between them. Lewis had roughly similar power in his right but nowhere near the power in Wlad's left. Wlad's jab is better than anybody's, Lennox couldn't jab anywhere near Wlad's league. Wlad is faster with either hand and has sharper instincts. Wlad punches from a greater varaiety of angles, and can do things Lennox wouldn't even think of (like quadruple hook in a flash). Chins are roughly equal, Wlad probably has more heart. Wlad is bigger also, and Lennox couldn't handle someone his own size.

Wlad > Len by a country mile

There was something in prime Lewis that I could never see in Wlad. Lewis was very relaxed in the ring, whereas I can always sense some kind of tension in Wlad, even the later version of it. Vitali was just as realxed and hopefully will be on his return. Lewis got more heart as well, IMO.

[kayjay]

There was something in prime Lewis that I could never see in Wlad. Lewis was very relaxed in the ring, whereas I can always sense some kind of tension in Wlad, even the later version of it. Vitali was just as realxed and hopefully will be on his return. Lewis got more heart as well, IMO.

I'll grant that much. I just need to hammer these points home again and again. I've actually been watching a good bit of Lennox, and in terms of his skill and physical ability he's terrific but nowhere near Wlad. A lot of things troubled him, too. He wasn't someone who never lost a round or never got in trouble. Wlad is, and maybe that has to do in some way with what you correctly point out

[EMPOROAR]

Nah, Wlad has surpassed Lewis is ability, he does everything much better than Lennox did, and is the naturally superior athlete as well as the more technical boxer between them. Lewis had roughly similar power in his right but nowhere near the power in Wlad's left. Wlad's jab is better than anybody's, Lennox couldn't jab anywhere near Wlad's league. Wlad is faster with either hand and has sharper instincts. Wlad punches from a greater varaiety of angles, and can do things Lennox wouldn't even think of (like quadruple hook in a flash). Chins are roughly equal, Wlad probably has more heart. Wlad is bigger also, and Lennox couldn't handle someone his own size.

Wlad > Len by a country mile

Lol. That has got to be one of the funniest things I have ever read on the forum. ha ha ha. You dont actually believe all of that do you?

[Toller]

There was something in prime Lewis that I could never see in Wlad. Lewis was very relaxed in the ring, whereas I can always sense some kind of tension in Wlad, even the later version of it. Vitali was just as realxed and hopefully will be on his return. Lewis got more heart as well, IMO.

Definitely! Lewis also took shots better than Wlad does. Could you see Wlad standing up to the shots Vitali hit Lewis with? I certainly can't, he was nowhere near as vulnerable as Wlad.


Lennox's right hand was also a more effective weapon than Wladimir's, both hit damn hard but Lewis was better at landing the big one.

[Steak]

I'll grant that much. I just need to hammer these points home again and again. I've actually been watching a good bit of Lennox, and in terms of his skill and physical ability he's terrific but nowhere near Wlad. A lot of things troubled him, too. He wasn't someone who never lost a round or never got in trouble. Wlad is, and maybe that has to do in some way with what you correctly point out

woah, not a chance man. in terms of speed, I think Wlad outdoes Lennox, his jab and right hands are straight and incredibly quick for his size, and pack a lot of power.

but Lennox was much more versitle than Wlad. Lennox was a far better in-fighter, had a monsterous uppercut(which Wlad has none much to speak of), and Lennox could throw his right hand in tons of different ways, Wlad only has his straight right pretty much. Left hook Wlad is a little bit ahead.

I thought Lewis also had more strategies he could put into effect, a WAY better body puncher, and arguably had better stamina and durability. I wont talk about heart, because honestly, Wlad has really NEVER given up in a fight. He doesnt fight ack when hes hurt, but he sticks in there and doesnt give up, and comes back if he can. so I wont say nothin bad about him there.

Lewis's offensive abilites are underrated. he had excellent offensive abilities.
heres pretty much a highlight of his career. its very good, yall should watch it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oT7-KU3sjkM&mode=related&search=

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-OQrgv5MemE&mode=related&search=

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uHzFd7MOuYU

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[kayjay]

woah, not a chance man. in terms of speed, I think Wlad outdoes Lennox, his jab and right hands are straight and incredibly quick for his size, and pack a lot of power.

but Lennox was much more versitle than Wlad. Lennox was a far better in-fighter, had a monsterous uppercut(which Wlad has none much to speak of), and Lennox could throw his right hand in tons of different ways, Wlad only has his straight right pretty much. Left hook Wlad is a little bit ahead.

I thought Lewis also had more strategies he could put into effect, a WAY better body puncher, and arguably had better stamina and durability. I wont talk about heart, because honestly, Wlad has really NEVER given up in a fight. He doesnt fight ack when hes hurt, but he sticks in there and doesnt give up, and comes back if he can. so I wont say nothin bad about him there.

Lewis's offensive abilites are underrated. he had excellent offensive abilities.
heres pretty much a highlight of his career. its very good, yall should watch it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oT7-KU3sjkM&mode=related&search=

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-OQrgv5MemE&mode=related&search=

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uHzFd7MOuYU

You bring up some of Lewis's advantages, and I acknowledge them: infighting, uppercuts, durability. But he's also more hittable than Wlad is, so he has to be more durable.

But the points I make hold. Wlad has the best jab probably of all time, better handspeed, more two-fisted power, better overall technique in his punches. He's also more dedicated to his craft.

I think Wlad has the better tool set. Of course Lewis had the better career, but Wlad has plenty of time to eclipse that. At the age of thirty Lennox was not as good and had not done as much as Wlad has.

[HeysusChristus]

You bring up some of Lewis's advantages, and I acknowledge them: infighting, uppercuts, durability. But he's also more hittable than Wlad is, so he has to be more durable.

But the points I make hold. Wlad has the best jab probably of all time, better handspeed, more two-fisted power, better overall technique in his punches. He's also more dedicated to his craft.

I think Wlad has the better tool set. Of course Lewis had the better career, but Wlad has plenty of time to eclipse that. At the age of thirty Lennox was not as good and had not done as much as Wlad has.

Klitschko needs to as elusive as is humanly possible in a boxing ring. i can never imagine him in a war and emerging the victor, but that's not style, his chin and natural caution won't ever allow him to engage in a 'war'.