De La Hoya's Legacy - Unshaken - Even after his losses

[Dick-Sucker]

Recently i ran an article on my blog, about De La Hoya's legacy, not being that badly affected after his losses, because the quality of the opponent had been so good and except for the Hopkins loss, all fights were close. Like i said on the boxing addict blog, i still have to rate Oscar as the second finest of this generation behind Evander. And if Oscar wins another world title belt, which will happen, then he is the best of this generation.

There is a silent rule in boxing. that is if you fight the best, and put up a decent show, your legacy remains intact. This ensures the best fight the best. This rule is what boxing needs, and everyone knows.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Recently i ran an article on my blog, about De La Hoya's legacy, not being that badly affected after his losses, because the quality of the opponent had been so good and except for the Hopkins loss, all fights were close. Like i said on the boxing addict blog, i still have to rate Oscar as the second finest of this generation behind Evander. And if Oscar wins another world title belt, which will happen, then he is the best of this generation.

There is a silent rule in boxing. that is if you fight the best, and put up a decent show, your legacy remains intact. This ensures the best fight the best. This rule is what boxing needs, and everyone knows.

Does that "generation" include Roy Jones, Jr and Pernell Whitaker? Are you counting them as the same era?

[Verstyle]

Does that "generation" include Roy Jones, Jr and Pernell Whitaker? Are you counting them as the same era?

Dont forget Lennox.

[Fox McCloud]

And Bernard Hopkins.

[Dick-Sucker]

De La Hoya is over Pernell and Roy Jones Junior in my books.

Roy Jones has had some bad losses. Losses a lot worse than De La Hoya had ever had. Knocked out cold, by unknowns.

Pernell lost to De La Hoya as we all know. But i tend to think his list of opponents was not as high asd De La Hoya's. He only went high with his last 5 or so fights.

Out of this generation my rankings stand:

1 Holyfield
2 De La Hoya ( if he wins another title hes number 1)
3 Pernell
4 Roy JR

Obviously im bias to holyfield. I think he has overcome more than any other boxer of this generation in terms of personal life mishaps. Which brings him up my list. But hey thats only my list and im one person.

[Macho_Time]

Oscar gets too much credit for losing his biggest fights. he's never had any legacy defining victories. what was his best win? over a softened up steroided up vargas?

[brently1979]

Which generation is this? I would put a lot more ahead of DLH.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

De La Hoya is over Pernell and Roy Jones Junior in my books.

Roy Jones has had some bad losses. Losses a lot worse than De La Hoya had ever had. Knocked out cold, by unknowns.

Pernell lost to De La Hoya as we all know. But i tend to think his list of opponents was not as high asd De La Hoya's. He only went high with his last 5 or so fights.

Out of this generation my rankings stand:

1 Holyfield
2 De La Hoya ( if he wins another title hes number 1)
3 Pernell
4 Roy JR

Obviously im bias to holyfield. I think he has overcome more than any other boxer of this generation in terms of personal life mishaps. Which brings him up my list. But hey thats only my list and im one person.

You have now earned the title 'King of Unreasonableness'.

Roy got KO'd at the end of his (viable) career

Oscar beat a version of Pernell that was done.

Oscar's best opposition: Shane twice, Trinidad, Quartey, Hopkins and Mayweather. What's his record in thoase fights.

[Fox McCloud]

De La Hoya is over Pernell and Roy Jones Junior in my books.

Roy Jones has had some bad losses. Losses a lot worse than De La Hoya had ever had. Knocked out cold, by unknowns.

Pernell lost to De La Hoya as we all know. But i tend to think his list of opponents was not as high asd De La Hoya's. He only went high with his last 5 or so fights.

Out of this generation my rankings stand:

1 Holyfield
2 De La Hoya ( if he wins another title hes number 1)
3 Pernell
4 Roy JR

Obviously im bias to holyfield. I think he has overcome more than any other boxer of this generation in terms of personal life mishaps. Which brings him up my list. But hey thats only my list and im one person.

Tarver and Glen Johnson are nobodies? Hmm...

Here are some people I would put above him:

Bernard Hopkins - 20 successful title defenses, pretty damn impressive, beat the invincible (at the time) Tito Trinidad.

Lennox Lewis - Beat every fighter he faced (won the rematches of both of his losses and his only draw).

Roy Jones Jr. - Won belts at Middleweight, Super Middlewight, Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight. Achieved the P4P #1 spot for a long time.

Pernell Whitaker - Drew with the great Chavez. Beat a lot of good fighters, and was one of the best defensively.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Titles in 5 different weight classes, no losses, The Ring championship at 2 weight classes (should have been 3, but The Ring wasn't putting out lists when he was king at 130, because the Corrales win certainly would have given him The Ring championship at that weight). Beat your boy De La Hoya.

I just don't know how De La Hoya is so high on your list considering he didn't win almost any of his big fights. If you want to make the argument that he won some of those fights that the judges say he lost, then I could counter and say that he shouldn't have won the Whitaker fight, or the Sturm fight, or a few others. For every bad decision for ODLH, there is a gift decision somewhere else that made up for it.

[Dick-Sucker]

Tarver and Glen Johnson are nobodies? Hmm...

Here are some people I would put above him:

Bernard Hopkins - 20 successful title defenses, pretty damn impressive, beat the invincible (at the time) Tito Trinidad.

Lennox Lewis - Beat every fighter he faced (won the rematches of both of his losses and his only draw).

Roy Jones Jr. - Won belts at Middleweight, Super Middlewight, Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight. Achieved the P4P #1 spot for a long time.

Pernell Whitaker - Drew with the great Chavez. Beat a lot of good fighters, and was one of the best defensively.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Titles in 5 different weight classes, no losses, The Ring championship at 2 weight classes (should have been 3, but The Ring wasn't putting out lists when he was king at 130, because the Corrales win certainly would have given him The Ring championship at that weight). Beat your boy De La Hoya.

I just don't know how De La Hoya is so high on your list considering he didn't win almost any of his big fights. If you want to make the argument that he won some of those fights that the judges say he lost, then I could counter and say that he shouldn't have won the Whitaker fight, or the Sturm fight, or a few others. For every bad decision for ODLH, there is a gift decision somewhere else that made up for it.

Yes sorry i forgot Bernard. He would be number 1 for me in front of Evander. But De la hoya at 3. But thats only my list and im one person. Yes But Roy Jones has been knocked out bad a few times, not saying stopped by a body shot, im talking KTFO.