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  • pesticid
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    #141
    Originally posted by DWiens421
    Maybe not... because his defense is lacking compared to Mayweather's. Anyways, that Judah uppercut rocked Cotto's world, and you know that Mayweather is just as good of a counter puncher as Judah.
    Just playing devil's advocate. I think punch for punch Zab matches the speed of Mayweather, it's just that Mayweather is so precise it gives people the illusion that he's faster. Also, the power of Mayweather is lesser than Judah's and PBF has a tenedency to weat pillowpadded gloves lately cause of his hands, as a result his power is slightly diminished. He'll hit Cotto easy though.

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      #142
      Originally posted by DWiens421
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      Thanks, but I just don't want it. I saw it at a bar and it was a boring fight. I actually liked Floyd in the Baldomir fight. There were some greatly entertaining moments and I am sure a lot of people will laugh at that remark.

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        #143
        Originally posted by pesticid
        Thanks, but I just don't want it. I saw it at a bar and it was a boring fight. I actually liked Floyd in the Baldomir fight. There were some greatly entertaining moments and I am sure a lot of people will laugh at that remark.
        Apparantly you aren't as OCD as me.

        Quick question: Do your versions of the Melo fight and the O'Shields fight have the entirety of the match? The only versions I have seen have the first round of the Melo fight cut off completely, and the first minute of the O'Shields fight cut off.

        Back on topic: I think Judah is faster than Mayweather, but Mayweather is definately more accurate, and he is good enough at defense that he will hit Cotto a lot more than he will get hit. Obviously he is not going to knock Cotto out, who gets stunned easy, but really never gets seriously hurt. I think Floyd could get a fairly wide decision over Cotto. Floyd slips too much for Cotto's body attack to be as good as it always is. Not to mention, Cotto chases his opponents more than he cuts off the ring IMO. That would be bad for him, because Floyd could potentially counterpunch him all night if Cotto just chased him.

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          #144
          Originally posted by DWiens421
          Apparantly you aren't as OCD as me.

          Quick question: Do your versions of the Melo fight and the O'Shields fight have the entirety of the match? The only versions I have seen have the first round of the Melo fight cut off completely, and the first minute of the O'Shields fight cut off.

          Back on topic: I think Judah is faster than Mayweather, but Mayweather is definately more accurate, and he is good enough at defense that he will hit Cotto a lot more than he will get hit. Obviously he is not going to knock Cotto out, who gets stunned easy, but really never gets seriously hurt. I think Floyd could get a fairly wide decision over Cotto. Floyd slips too much for Cotto's body attack to be as good as it always is. Not to mention, Cotto chases his opponents more than he cuts off the ring IMO. That would be bad for him, because Floyd could potentially counterpunch him all night if Cotto just chased him.

          Yeah I have both fights in their entirety. I have them on DVDs' though and I have no idea how I can change the files to a pc format and upload them. I think I tried last year but I failed miserably.

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            #145
            Originally posted by pesticid
            Yeah I have both fights in their entirety. I have them on DVDs' though and I have no idea how I can change the files to a pc format and upload them. I think I tried last year but I failed miserably.
            Wow, well if you ever do figure out how to get them on your computer, I will do quite a lot in return for those 2 fights, in their entirety (points, karma, 5 fight uploads of your choice or so).

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            • RayLeonard82
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              #146
              I think there are 2 fighters out right now that match up very well with Floyd and that's Paul Williams and Vernon Forest. Both are 6-1 to 6-2 with very good speed for there size. They also hold a 4 to 5 inch height advantage over Floyd.

              Forrest is a solid defensive fighter also and very good counterpuncher. He won't charge in like Oscar and just leave himself open.

              I think Cotto is easy to hit,so i can see Floyd jumping out to a big early lead with Cotto trying to come on strong late,but Floyd still getting the UD.

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                #147
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                Wow, well if you ever do figure out how to get them on your computer, I will do quite a lot in return for those 2 fights, in their entirety (points, karma, 5 fight uploads of your choice or so).
                Well if u have any ideas about how I can go about converting them you're welcome.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by RayLeonard82
                  I think there are 2 fighters out right now that match up very well with Floyd and that's Paul Williams and Vernon Forest. Both are 6-1 to 6-2 with very good speed for there size. They also hold a 4 to 5 inch height advantage over Floyd.

                  Forrest is a solid defensive fighter also and very good counterpuncher. He won't charge in like Oscar and just leave himself open.

                  I think Cotto is easy to hit,so i can see Floyd jumping out to a big early lead with Cotto trying to come on strong late,but Floyd still getting the UD.
                  I agree with all of this. I think Forrest is too big to make 147 anymore (which is probably why he moved up, seriously who would leave the 147 division if they didn't have to?) but Williams could give Floyd problems. I think his defense is a little sloppy right now, and he needs to work on landing more punches, because workrate alone can be counter by counterpunching (funny how that works out).

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                    #149
                    I was hoping that Amir Khan would mature quickly and eventually have a fight with Floyd but he's been moved rather slowly. Haven't seen much of him the pros, maybe a couple short fights but I saw him in the olympics in Athens, he was incredible, he got beat in the finals by an aging Kindelan but then I heard that he had a rematch with him the next year and had beaten him convincingly. Never saw the second fight.

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