Scale of 1-10, how accurate do u find Harold Letterman??

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  • The Troll
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    #31
    4 and I agree with him in general alot of the time but some times his scoring methods are just ridiculous and biased for a certain fighter.
    Last edited by The Troll; 08-13-2007, 09:05 PM.

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    • The Texican
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      #32
      I give him a 7. Most of the time I agree with Larry Merchant, but I think it's because we're both drinking while watching and scoring.

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      • slicksouthpaw16
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        #33
        about a 7 or 8. i agree with him most of time but he does talk bs about some of my favorite fighters sometimes.

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        • freedom213
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          #34
          the guy is off probably 60 % of the time. By far the most accurate scoring ive seen is from teddy atlas on espn fights

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          • shawn_
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            #35
            Barrera v. Marquez was an easy fight to judge for the most part. Two evenly matched fighters that showed no difference in ability to find each other with their punches.

            There was only one distinguishable difference between the two fighters. Ring Generalship.

            MAB showed clear cut dominance in the Ring Generalship department. Marquez moved when MAB wanted Marquez to move. Marquez came forward when MAB wanted Marquez to come forward. Marquez went backwards when MAB wanted Marquez to go backwards. Not the other way around.

            How a person scored Barrera v. Marquez in large part shows their ability to properly factor Ring Generalship into their scoring.

            If you are blind to Ring Generalship, you had a hard time scoring the fight.
            If you had the bout as a wide margin for Marquez, you demonstrated lack of sight for ring generalship and a tenancy to show bias towards your favorite fighter.

            With that said, I do not believe many judges know how to score fights correctly.

            I think Harold for the most part scores fights accurately. Some times, however, you can clearly see personal bias in his scores.

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            • ispayder
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              #36
              Originally posted by shawn_
              Barrera v. Marquez was an easy fight to judge for the most part. Two evenly matched fighters that showed no difference in ability to find each other with their punches.

              There was only one distinguishable difference between the two fighters. Ring Generalship.

              MAB showed clear cut dominance in the Ring Generalship department. Marquez moved when MAB wanted Marquez to move. Marquez came forward when MAB wanted Marquez to come forward. Marquez went backwards when MAB wanted Marquez to go backwards. Not the other way around.

              How a person scored Barrera v. Marquez in large part shows their ability to properly factor Ring Generalship into their scoring.

              If you are blind to Ring Generalship, you had a hard time scoring the fight.
              If you had the bout as a wide margin for Marquez, you demonstrated lack of sight for ring generalship and a tenancy to show bias towards your favorite fighter.

              With that said, I do not believe many judges know how to score fights correctly.

              I think Harold for the most part scores fights accurately. Some times, however, you can clearly see personal bias in his scores.

              Good point!

              No offense to Lederman worshippers but his scores differs from the scores of the official judges most of the time. So if 10 is accurate, I'd give him a 4.

              The only good thing about his scoring is the way he explain why he scored it that way.

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              • Fox McCloud
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                #37
                Probably about a 4... he has botched too many one-sided rounds for me to respect him. The one example that just made me want to never hear his scorecard again was Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Jesus Chavez round 1.

                Jim Lampley's quote went something like this when they announced Harold's scorecard:
                "Chavez charged straight ahead and threw a ton of punches but missed most of them. He was 6 of 92 in the round. Mayweather took his time, and picked his shots, landing 23 of 56. Umm, I see Harold Lederman gave the round to Chavez."

                Later in the fight Jim Lampley said something like this, "Harold, did you give Chavez round 1? Okay, that's all I needed to know."

                He babbled some **** about effective aggressiveness, blah, blah, blah. Sweet job Harold.

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                • TheEvilSaint
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                  #38
                  i'd give him a 7 or an 8. hes usually spot on, but sometimes he can get some pretty ****** scores.

                  he gave the 1st round of the wlad/byrd rematch to byrd cuz of byrd's "effective body punches". that was some never-forgive action, right there.

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                  • ianblake
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by !! Mr. Soprano
                    Do you need a lesson on statistics?

                    Would that meen 7/10? LOL
                    do you need a map?

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                    • drvooh
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Double
                      I'd say an 8, the one thing he does that I like is he'll admit when a round could of gone either way.
                      That's a good pernt ( point )...I also say an 8

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