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How Come Ivan Calderon Is Not A P4p???

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  • #11
    Originally posted by NAPO View Post
    I Saw Some Of His Fights When I Went To P.r And The Guy Is A 32 Strawweight Boxer That Has Good Skills Always Box Don't Usually Walk Undefeated Has Defended His Wbo Title More Than 7 Times.


    He's Moving Up Weight To Face Hugo Cazares Probably If He Beats Cazares He'll Get His P4p Spot...what Do U Guys Think???
    No ****bull**** - I had this same thought today..

    Good question.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Chups View Post
      If he beats Hugo...he should enter top 12 P4P.

      The guy beat Cotto in the amateurs for God sakes.
      thats exactly why i have him as my #1...he is heavily underrated and will ease past hugo.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by NAPO View Post
        I Saw Some Of His Fights When I Went To P.r And The Guy Is A 32 Strawweight Boxer That Has Good Skills Always Box Don't Usually Walk Undefeated Has Defended His Wbo Title More Than 7 Times.


        He's Moving Up Weight To Face Hugo Cazares Probably If He Beats Cazares He'll Get His P4p Spot...what Do U Guys Think???
        he is in my p4p list top 10.

        The problem in that weightclass there isnt so much attention because nobody wanna see a 12 round of boxing people wanna see blood and that is the fact.

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        • #14
          Out of sight, out of mind. I have never seen him fight (and I know I'm not alone, even among hardcore fans) but based on what I've read, he should definitely be up there.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by cupcrazy01 View Post
            Out of sight, out of mind. I have never seen him fight (and I know I'm not alone, even among hardcore fans) but based on what I've read, he should definitely be up there.
            yes, I seen him fight once it was posted in the trading video by Ferocity.

            but it is abit dirty

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            • #16
              Originally posted by NAPO View Post
              I Saw Some Of His Fights When I Went To P.r And The Guy Is A 32 Strawweight Boxer That Has Good Skills Always Box Don't Usually Walk Undefeated Has Defended His Wbo Title More Than 7 Times.


              He's Moving Up Weight To Face Hugo Cazares Probably If He Beats Cazares He'll Get His P4p Spot...what Do U Guys Think???
              Cuz unfortunately, those guys in that weight class dont get much recognition. Plus, since he doesnt have pop in his punches, most people dont hear about him. But I agree with you...if he beats Cazares convicingly, you could make the argument that he should break the top 10.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by eazy_mas View Post
                he is in my p4p list top 10.

                The problem in that weightclass there isnt so much attention because nobody wanna see a 12 round of boxing people wanna see blood and that is the fact.
                i seen fights that people box for 12 round and get bloddy nose and inflamation.i don't know im the type of fan that should enjoy every single weight division no matter how small they are...u really could see good fights on thos weight divisions.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Phantasm View Post
                  Cuz unfortunately, those guys in that weight class dont get much recognition. Plus, since he doesnt have pop in his punches, most people dont hear about him. But I agree with you...if he beats Cazares convicingly, you could make the argument that he should break the top 10.
                  i agree but to me those fights in the lower divisions are not boring.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by NAPO View Post
                    i agree but to me those fights in the lower divisions are not boring.
                    Oh I agree with you. In fact, since I was a kid, my dad made sure I'd watch the lower weight classes because he felt they were the most exciting fights around. But the casual fan (of which we have a lot of here in BS) doesnt care for that. They want to see guys get bloodied up and taken out. If a fight goes the distance, then to most of them it was a boring fight. We're a generation of ADD kids and 'fast' everything.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Phantasm View Post
                      Oh I agree with you. In fact, since I was a kid, my dad made sure I'd watch the lower weight classes because he felt they were the most exciting fights around. But the casual fan (of which we have a lot of here in BS) doesnt care for that. They want to see guys get bloodied up and taken out. If a fight goes the distance, then to most of them it was a boring fight. We're a generation of ADD kids and 'fast' everything.


                      I AGREE is what i have noticed too.

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