Is Luis Collazo a Top Welterweight?

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  • robjr
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    #31
    he is in the top 15

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    • TheEvilSaint
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      #32
      hes nowhere near the same league as mayweather, williams, cotto, margarito, cintron, etc.

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        #33
        He's definitely in the same league. Maybe not at the same level but he's in the same league.

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          #34
          Hyperborea
          From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          For other uses, see Hyperborea (disambiguation).

          In Greek mythology, according to tradition, the Hyperboreans were a mythical people who lived far to the north of Thrace. Their land, called Hyperborea, or Hyperboria ("beyond the Boreas (north wind)"), was perfect, with the Sun shining twenty-four hours a day.

          Never the Muse is absent
          from their ways: lyres clash and flutes cry
          and everywhere maiden choruses whirling.
          Neither disease nor bitter old age is mixed
          in their sacred blood; far from labor and battle they live.

          (Pindar, Tenth Pythian Ode, Richmond Lattimore, translator).

          Reaching such exotic lands is never easy:

          Never on land or by sea will you find
          the marvelous road to the feast of the Hyperborea.

          Pindar cautioned. The Greeks thought that Boreas, the North Wind, lived in Thrace, and that therefore Hyperborea was an unspecified nation in the northern lands beyond Scythia.
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          * 1 Legends
          * 2 Modern interpretations
          * 3 Cultural references
          * 4 Notes
          * 5 References

          [edit] Legends

          Alone among the Twelve Olympians, Apollo was venerated among the Hyperboreans: he spent his winter amongst them.[1] For their part the Hyperboreans sent mysterious gifts, packed in straw that came first to Dodona and then were passed from people to people until they came to Apollo's temple on Delos (Pausanias). Abaris, Hyperborean priest of Apollo, was a legendary wandering healer and seer. Theseus and Perseus also visited the Hyperboreans.

          Along with Thule, Hyperborea was one of several terrae incognitae to the Greeks and Romans, where Pliny and Herodotus, as well as Virgil and Cicero, reported that people lived to the age of one thousand and enjoyed lives of complete happiness. According to Herodotus (4.13) the Hyperboreans lived beyond the Arimaspians and were visited by Aristeas, who is said to have written a hexameter poem (now lost) dealing with them. Hesiod mentioned the Hyperboreans, Herodotus reported, "and Homer also in the Epigoni, if that be really a work of his". Also, the sun was supposed to rise and set only once a year in Hyperborea. Large quan****** of gold were here, guarded by griffins.

          Maps based on reference points and descriptions description given by Strabo[2] Hyperborea, shown variously as a peninsula or island, is located beyond France and has a greater latitudinal than longitudinal extent.[3] Other descriptions put it in the general area of the Ural Mountains.

          [edit] Modern interpretations

          As with other legends of this sort, selected details can be reconciled with modern knowledge. Above the Arctic Circle, from the time of the vernal equinox to the time of the autumnal equinox, the sun can shine for twenty-four hours a day; at the extremes (that is, the Poles), it rises and sets only once a year, possibly leading to the erroneous conclusion that a "day" for such persons is a year long, and therefore that living a thousand days would be the same as living a thousand years.

          Since Herodotus places the Hyperboreans beyond the Massagetae and Issedones, both Central Asian peoples, it appears that his Hyperboreans may have lived in Siberia. Heracles sought the golden-antlered hind of Artemis in Hyperborea. As the reindeer is the only deer species of which females bear horns, this would suggest an arctic or subarctic region. Following J.D.P. Bolton's location of the Issedones on the south-western slopes of the Altay mountains, Carl P.Ruck places Hyperborea beyond the Dzungarian Gate into northern Xinjiang, noting that the Hyperboreans were probably Chinese. [4] Hecataeus of Abdera, however, clearly places the Hyperboreans in the British Isles.

          The term "Hyperborean" sees some self-consciously jocular contemporary use to refer to any who live in a cold climate.[5] Under the Library of Congress classification system, the letter subclass PM includes "Hyperborean Languages", a catch-all category that refers to all the linguistically unrelated languages of peoples living in Arctic regions, such as the Inuit.

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          • Chipper
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            #35
            What do you know another thread indirectly hating on Hatton.

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              #36
              robjr
              he is in the top 15
              i cant see how he cant be anyone top ten

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                #37
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                hes nowhere near the same league as mayweather, williams, cotto, margarito, cintron, etc.
                cintron best opponent hes beaten is david estrada and the best opponent hes faced is antonio margarito lost

                luis collazo best opponent hes beaten is jose antonio rivera (arguably hatton) and the best opponent hes faced is shane mosley lost

                i dont see a league of difference there

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by 2120
                  cintron best opponent hes beaten is david estrada and the best opponent hes faced is antonio margarito lost

                  luis collazo best opponent hes beaten is jose antonio rivera (arguably hatton) and the best opponent hes faced is shane mosley lost

                  i dont see a league of difference there
                  They're both 2nd tier welterweights...

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                  • robjr
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by 2120
                    robjr


                    i cant see how he cant be anyone top ten
                    mayweather
                    mosley
                    williams
                    cotto
                    cintron
                    margarito
                    Judah
                    Clottey
                    Baldomir
                    Collazo
                    Berto
                    Quintana
                    Mitchell
                    Urkal
                    Julio

                    collazo could very likely be in the top 10.. but thats roughly a top 15 at 147 right now I beleive..

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by !! SiN
                      I don't think it's a coincidence he's only looked good against Hatton. He looked awful against Mosley and decent against Rivera when he won the title...
                      Decent with Rivera? Did you even watch that fight? It was fight of the year contender. That fight made names for both of them.

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