I dont think Wlad was 100% against Brewster in the first fight

[Smokin']

my point exactly, bowe had no defense, he took tons of punishment... why do you think rock newman never put him in with big punchers? he never fought ANY of the other hard hitting heavyweights: moorer, tyson, mercer, ruddock, morrison, lewis... Bowe looked great against guys he was supposed to look great against... he DUCKED anyone that would hurt him... he even threw his title in the trash rather than face lewis....

Dont you see the same in Wladimir, ******? Except he'll rematch the guys 3-4 years after to make sure they are washed up.

[guru]

I am honestly pissed that someone can be this ******. Wlad fans are the dumbest of the bunch. This guy is literally ONE PUNCH, ONE FREAKIN PUNCH away from getting knocked out..

if you are honestly pissed off over people's opinion in a boxing FORUM, then thats a whole other issue... but it still does not condone statements like:
"you are retarted go die" or calling people P.O.S

[Smokin']

if you are honestly pissed off over people's opinion in a boxing FORUM, then thats a whole other issue... but it still does not condone statements like:
"you are retarted go die" or calling people P.O.S

I am pissed because it is just that ****ing ******. I've heard some morons even compare Klitschko's resume to Roy's.

[The Troll]

dude Wlad has not even dominated the worst era of heavyweights EVER. He is a full 3 steps below Lennox Lewis. Lewis had more handspeed, was more fluid, better skills, better body puncher, better chin, more heart, great determination. I can go on and on. Wlad has lost to:
1) Sanders
2) Purrity
3) Brewster

No go killyourself.

He's lost legitimately 2 fights. So he's not in the club of 1 heavyweight champions to retire undefeated, wow, what a ****ing revalation.

And against Purity he was fatigued yes and lost but he wasn't displaying anything near the symptoms he was against Brewster. And he threw many many more punches in a longer fight against Purity.

[guru]

Dont you see the same in Wladimir, ******? Except he'll rematch the guys 3-4 years after to make sure they are washed up.

calling me ****** is immature...

i do not consider it the same.. wlad can fight going backwards and moving around the ring using his jab... bowe NEVR fought like that, he could only fight going forward or on the inside... also wlad has fought big punchers, where as bowe ducked them

[duffgun]

my point exactly, bowe had no defense, he took tons of punishment... why do you think rock newman never put him in with big punchers? he never fought ANY of the other hard hitting heavyweights: moorer, tyson, mercer, ruddock, morrison, lewis... Bowe looked great against guys he was supposed to look great against... he DUCKED anyone that would hurt him... he even threw his title in the trash rather than face lewis....

wasnt pink considered a good puncher? i dont like the fact that he didnt fight lewis, but i have read that rock newman had signed a contract to get lewis bowe on but lewis lost to mccall almost as soon as they were negotiating the final detail's, bowe would beat mercer ruddock and morrison.

[duffgun]

calling me ****** is immature...

i do not consider it the same.. wlad can fight going backwards and moving around the ring using his jab... bowe NEVR fought like that, he could only fight going forward or on the inside... also wlad has fought big punchers, where as bowe ducked them

yes but there crude big punchers, bowe's fight with holy is still 10 times better than fighting a big limited puncher, plus i still say pink hits as hard as almost all wlads opponents.

[Run]

bowe was all offense, no defense..... his only credible win was over the much smaller holyfield..... you saw how bowe did against golota, now picture what wlad or lewis would do to him...

Agreed.

Maybe the most overrated heavyweight of all time. 1 opponent on his record......and everyone thought he was god.

Wlad > Bowe times some number.



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[Smokin']

calling me ****** is immature...

i do not consider it the same.. wlad can fight going backwards and moving around the ring using his jab... bowe NEVR fought like that, he could only fight going forward or on the inside... also wlad has fought big punchers, where as bowe ducked them

Wlad cant throw body punches. Wlad doesn't use uppercuts. Wlad cant fight inside. This guy is not the offensive machine that everyone talks about. He does well with what he has which is a hueg size/reach advantage over his opposition. A big, tough, well rounded fighter like Bowe would have no problem getting inside. Zero.

[beez721]

no way would he have creamed bowe, he was one of the most talented big heavyweights ever, wlad has never faced anyone near as good as bowe, although i do think he could have beat moorer.

rock newman steered bowe clear of any big heavies his size that could punch ( like lewis and ruddock) for a reason. bowe couldnt hold up to them. hell,,,even golota had him beat twice