amir kahn the fraud

[Technical_Skill]

The can't improve his defence wasn't meant for you Technical, sorry if you thought I was lumping you in there. It was stated by a know nothing fool previously. to say a kid of 20 can't learn to improve aspects of his game is just ******.

Don't forget that many good fighters don't fight at their top level when they face a fighter they know they can beat. They take more chances that they may not take against a much better fighter because they can in knowing said fighter may hit them, but they won't hurt him, so they don't fight quite the same way against opponents they know they can walk through and beat.

There you go though, put him in with Cassamayor, the kid has 14 pro fights, why in hell would he be put in with a fighter of cassamayor's talent and experience level exactly??? Why do people want to rush fighters these days is beyond me, just because the kid has hype behind him, people think he's a world class fighter right now and he's not yet. Maybe some Khan fanboys think he is and mouth off about him, but at 20 yrs of age, he should be nowhere near a major title fight IMO.

I was pissing about with the Casamayor comment, casamayor would hurt him real bad,

The overall point about Khan is, he doesnt come across to me as a guy who can learn from his mistakes, after the fight he was completley unrepentant about nearly getting knocked out by a nobody, but i worry about the people he surrounds himself with also, it seems like there are plenty of yes men about him and khan had quite an inflated opinion of himself, like the time he told english tv he could beat mayweather in a 4 round fight (Mayweather by knockout for me in that one), he's too ****y, and i think all the hype has just come too early for him, but we shall see.

[MasterODisaster]

Fair enough man.

For a young man, maturity is a problem, especially when surrounded by yes men, I agree with you there.

I disagree with the he can't improve issue though. Maybe it will take a loss, but he does have great skills, if you say he does not, then the debate shall end here, anyone with any boxing sense can see he has great skill set already at 20.

He can certainly get better, but whether he does is up for debate. I truly think a loss would be a good thing for him to be honest. Then he'd not take the god given gifts for granted as he sort of does currently, and hopefully won't fall into the Naz trap by just relying on those gifts and not improving himself when he clearly has the ability to do so given the right conditions.

To criticize him right now at that age and saying he can't improve is ****** as hell (and the individual this is directed at knows whom he is). Sure he's ****y right now, but what hyped fighter wouldn't be at that point in their career really? What was PBF doing at 20 exactly? I don't think he had 14 wins under his belt now did he at 20, and he is the next coming if you believe the bull**** his supporters spew out, so why not give a young talent a break. Why not piss on him IF he falters instead of trying to tear him down when he wins against a very good veteran fighter by overcoming adversity instead of saying he's weak???

[JuanDan]

Technical_Skill I agree. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6901327.stm

[shingle]

The number of ****** things you've said already show just how thick you are. Using ****** little emoticons and claiming someone has been owned is the last act of a ****** and desperate fool.

To state Khan will never be championship material alone based on just his 13th fight against a vastly more experienced opponent, and stating that he won't improve even though he is merely 20 years of age shows the lack of knowledge you have in regards to the sport Shingle.

BUNGALOW stop going on about age and experience kahn has fought no one with any power what so ever and still has been hurt badly to win world titles he will have to fight boxers with a punch which his chin cannot take. and do stop getting so upset you`ll only end up having a break down, your ranting and raving like a child.

[squealpiggy]

BUNGALOW stop going on about age and experience kahn has fought no one with any power what so ever and still has been hurt badly to win world titles he will have to fight boxers with a punch which his chin cannot take. and do stop getting so upset you`ll only end up having a break down, your ranting and raving like a child.

This is the first time he's been knocked down though, he got tagged clean and he's managed to get away with it before. He's likely going to work on his defence now, like he should have been working on it from the beginning.

[shingle]

This is the first time he's been knocked down though, he got tagged clean and he's managed to get away with it before. He's likely going to work on his defence now, like he should have been working on it from the beginning.

he was out on his feet his a couple of times during his amateur days look i dont hate the guy as some board members have said but to me and a lot of other board members his punch resistence is poor and you can not go on to great things with a major flaw like that.

[squealpiggy]

He's not doing bad, 13-0 and the commonwelath champ, if he's as bad as you say he is.

[shingle]

1) No, it means he can take shots from nobodies and get away with it, when he meet a puncher, lets see what happens, infact, forget a puncher, just put him in there with Casamayor and we can get this over and done with


2) Show me the bit where i said " He cant improve his defence" please.

good and simple point.

[shingle]

He's not doing bad, 13-0 and the commonwelath champ, if he's as bad as you say he is.

hey i`m not saying he`s bad and with carefull matching he may become the british champion but it will be really difficult avoiding very good fighters going for the world title.

[MasterODisaster]

First ranting and raving is not what i'm doing, but yes your ******ity does bother me a little shingle.

Ask yourself why he gets hit cleanly first....hmmmm, perhaps because he has a poor defense just maybe???? You really think that his defense is something he can't work on and improve....if so you are dumber than i first thought. why do you think he's been hit cleanly many times as people are saying.....again, poor defence perhaps?????

It's not hard to understand shingle, really it isn't so try your best to comprehend.
And yes I understand what you are saying about punch resistance, and I think he has managed just fine so far seeing as he doesn't have any decent defensive skills right now. We've seen guys get hurt or dropped to light hitters before when fighters get careless, it happens often in fact. As I mentioned before, Gatti has in the past been dropped by lesser fighters, are you going to try and tell me his punch resistance was weak as well now Shingle, or was it due to him being careless in regards to his defence because he was always on the offence much like Khan has been so far to date?

Oh, and yes, he will win a world title one day, but until then nobody will be proven right or wrong here in this debate, so with that i'm finished here, it's not worth trying to win you over to my point of view, and the opposit is true as well.