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  • wolfgang
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    Marvin Hagler

    Marvin said on Friday Night Fights, that people havent been watching boxing since he retired, and theres only One great fight a year, and in his day there was a great fight every week. Ive been watching boxing ever since he retired and I think there are great fights to be made, but money is bigger Issue in fights being made.
    Last edited by wolfgang; 07-21-2007, 03:07 AM.
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    Its not that there arent enough exciting fights. Thats far from the truth. There are always going to be great fights. Its the fact that there havent been enough big fights over the years. Big meaning two stars going at it. Not until recently has that been happening. If boxing was ever dead, this year had to have ressurected it, and its not even over yet.

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    • wolfgang
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      #3
      I know but money is still a big Issue, this year of boxing has been good though.

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        He is right to some extent. There were less versions of each belt up for grabs in Haglers day meaning that there was more chance of 2 big fighters clashing.

        Also here in the UK since sattelite and cable tv became big, many fighters go unrecognised.
        In the old days when we had just 3 channels the whole of britain got to see the likes of Sugar Ray Leanard, Nigel Benn, Thomas hearns, Chris Ubanks, and they became household names. People knew who they were even if they didnt follow boxing.
        All that changed once the big fights went to sattelite, and the likes of Roy Jones jnr, Joe Calzache, Bernard Hopkins are unknown names to most brits.

        I remember this one time back in the Eubanks, Collins, Benn days i was in a pub watching the WBO title fight between Collins and Eubanks and everyone was raving about collins being the best middleweight because he won the fight.
        It never occured to them that The WBO was the weakest title at the time and that the best middleweights was holding the WBC, WBA and IBF belts.
        I pointed out to this guy standing next to me that Collins would be no match for Roy Jones Jnr, and he said "Who is Roy Jones, If he was any good he would allready be there" !!!!
        This is after the Toney Jones fight, and after Roy Jones has been declared P4P the best boxer on the planet.
        this is why you sometimes here Brits make too much out of British boxers. Unless they are hardcore boxing fans who will dig into their pockets to watch pay per view, they are local ITV fights only watchers and they just simply don't know what the hell they are talking about.
        I am a brit btw.
        Last edited by Lexigon_5; 07-21-2007, 06:19 AM.

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        • JT1967
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          Marvin makes a good point I suppose...Having said that, the current welterweight division has some potential to come close to the depth, talent and excitement to the 80's...

          Regarding RJJ, chances are he would have definately beaten Nigel Benn. But then again Gerald McClellan was a big favourite aginst Benn in '95...

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            #6
            Originally posted by JT1967
            Marvin makes a good point I suppose...Having said that, the current welterweight division has some potential to come close to the depth, talent and excitement to the 80's...

            Regarding RJJ, chances are he would have definately beaten Nigel Benn. But then again Gerald McClellan was a big favourite aginst Benn in '95...
            You cant compare McClellan to roy jones. gerald was good but roy is in my opinion the greatest fighter of the last 15 odd years.

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              "I am a Brit by the way" lol naw, really, after that post?? The fact you'd even say that makes me think you're not.

              Anyways, I don't care about two stars, I care about two talented legit fighters who put on a show. Williams vs Margarito was 20x the fight PBF vs DLH was, and it wasn't PPV.

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              • Lexigon_5
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                I think RJJ gives Benn the same kind of treatment he dished out to James Toney.
                That said you cant get careless against Benn because its when he is hurt that he is at his most dangerous.
                Roy Jones would have to be motivated for that fight and not get ****y, because when Benn hits em they usually stay hit.

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                  RJJ is overrated, has a glass jaw, weak heart, and I find it hilarious people on here think he's the best fighter in the last 15 years, it's like there's a bunch of Ishe Smith's running around.

                  Compare Hopkins career to RJJ, how many top guys has RJJ fought?? If Hopkins was as polished as he became around 1999 when they fought he would of destroyed RJJ and there's no question he'd mop the floor with him now. RJJ prices himself out of Glen Johnson recently, that's who he's running from, is this man serious?? While Hopkins is embarassing Tarver and getting ready to fight Winky Wright. Would RJJ of fought Eastman or Taylor?? Even Echols?? No, he would've fought cops or fire fighters that he could've done highlight reel b.s. to. As long as you're punching RJJ and in his face he's finished. Then again Tarver outboxed him 3 times including laying him stiff once and sending him to dream land standing in the 3rd fight.

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                  • JT1967
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                    Originally posted by Lexigon_5
                    I think RJJ gives Benn the same kind of treatment he dished out to James Toney.
                    That said you cant get careless against Benn because its when he is hurt that he is at his most dangerous.
                    Roy Jones would have to be motivated for that fight and not get ****y, because when Benn hits em they usually stay hit.
                    Good post.

                    I am not trying to compare JM with RJJ, all I am saying is basically Benn would not be an easy fight for RJJ, Benn would have a chance albeit a small chance as Jones was approaching his prime and Benn was starting to go past it. Benn took McClellan's best shots its worth noting...

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