Anthony Mundine: "Joe Calzaghe Has No Balls"

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  • majestiC
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    #31
    name me a elite fighter other than Joe at super middle weight, there isn't one you can only beat whats put infront of you, the fight vs Hopkins was 99% done deal and hopkins demanding twice as much at the last minute, Taylor demanded $10m and Jones didn't want the fight until he was beaten 3 times in a row.

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      #32
      Originally posted by majestiC
      name me a elite fighter other than Joe at super middle weight, there isn't one you can only beat whats put infront of you, the fight vs Hopkins was 99% done deal and hopkins demanding twice as much at the last minute, Taylor demanded $10m and Jones didn't want the fight until he was beaten 3 times in a row.
      Your absolutly right you can only beat whats in front of you , and thats my point he hasnt had much in front of him and has a resume that statisticly does not match the hype put out on him . , its not a hate thing at all its because he has not proved himself at the top level , Kessler is his first real test .

      These offers you quote where for them to go to England , makes quite abit of difference to the projected light off any offer and whats with calling someone out and then naming the place , thats bull**** dont work that way , Joe could have done a Ricky Hatton and gone to the capitol of world boxing and got a fight with them easy but he wanted it at home or no go , just easier to sit at home reving his engine for the british media , people are gullible to fall for this **** ,,, even Ricky says wtf Joe Las Vegas is where its at !

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        #33
        No, the fight vs Taylor was in the U.S and the fight vs Hopkins was U.S bound to, Joe isn't afraid to fight outside the UK else he wouldnt have gone Germany why should Joe go Vegas when he can sell 35,000+ at home? Joe should only go the U.S for the top dogs and those fights have fallen through, Hatton's trip apart from Castillo fight in America was pointless.

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          #34
          Hatton vs Castillo sold 13,000 in Vegas, 10,000 were Brits the last 3,000 were Mexicans and Americans. 7,000-9,000 in the other two fights in the U.S, its pointless in going to America unless your fighting a popular fighter. Joe going to Vegas to fight would be pointless unless he went vs Winky, Hopkins, Taylor when he can sell 35,000+, 70,000 in his next fight at home and make much more money. To say Vegas is the capital of boxing is arrogant, there is no capital, you go to the guys place to win a world title then you take that title home with you for someone to win it back from you, im sick of hearing this america ****.

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            #35
            Originally posted by majestiC
            No, the fight vs Taylor was in the U.S and the fight vs Hopkins was U.S bound to, Joe isn't afraid to fight outside the UK else he wouldnt have gone Germany why should Joe go Vegas when he can sell 35,000+ at home? Joe should only go the U.S for the top dogs and those fights have fallen through, Hatton's trip apart from Castillo fight in America was pointless.
            Show me they where it was for US fights , I remember Joe wanting Taylor in the UK and offered 6m then Taylor in an off the cuff comment said 10 , the media ran with that and nothing was official .

            How can Joe be making any offers to Bhop or Jones for a US fight 10 yrs ago , you think Warrens going to be promotor in the US with the two biggest guns of the time , dont be silly , it was to come to the UK and was media hype machine at work , Bhop has mentioned it a few times and it was a UK fight which he was not interested in , now at age 42 Cal is thinking of coming to the US to fight him lol , man he is spinning you guys some bull**** .

            Rickys trip wasted , are you nuts he is one step of PFP king , he has more doors open now than anytime in his career , it didnt happen over night it was built the moment he left the UK , thats why he says Joe is wrong staying home .

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              #36
              Originally posted by majestiC
              Hatton vs Castillo sold 13,000 in Vegas, 10,000 were Brits the last 3,000 were Mexicans and Americans. 7,000-9,000 in the other two fights in the U.S, its pointless in going to America unless your fighting a popular fighter. Joe going to Vegas to fight would be pointless unless he went vs Winky, Hopkins, Taylor when he can sell 35,000+, 70,000 in his next fight at home and make much more money. To say Vegas is the capital of boxing is arrogant, there is no capital, you go to the guys place to win a world title then you take that title home with you for someone to win it back from you, im sick of hearing this america ****.
              Ricky is saying it , dont you think he would Know .

              Mate without going into the economics the Vegas casinos generate the most money for the biggest fights , its way bigger than you realize , thats why they are held there , other wise they would all be held in the UK and Europe , **** they got a live gate of 100,000 in Mexico , you Brits think a big live gate is the biz , you dont know anything about corporate dollar , the fact the casinos pay the promoter and actually bid for it , the PPV , Vegas is the capitol of world boxings superfight and its that way for a reason , ask Ricky .

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                #37
                Yea lets call the world championship the "Vegas Belt" now, did i say Vegas fights don't generate money? no, but only the top fights do, not many sell out in Vegas and half the time you get fat people who aren't intrested in boxing ringside on there mobile (cell) phones, awesome. Hatton likes Vegas because that was his dream to fight there, Calzaghe is more grounded and more intrested in just fighting, a ring is a ring. The dollar is diving, its almost worthless at the moment.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by majestiC
                  Yea lets call the world championship the "Vegas Belt" now, did i say Vegas fights don't generate money? no, but only the top fights do, not many sell out in Vegas and half the time you get fat people who aren't intrested in boxing ringside on there mobile (cell) phones, awesome. Hatton likes Vegas because that was his dream to fight there, Calzaghe is more grounded and more intrested in just fighting, a ring is a ring. The dollar is diving, its almost worthless at the moment.
                  Your beating a dead horse , Vegas is the capitol of world boxing superfights , thats just the way it is can be proven easy and I can tell you why with the figures , Im not American .

                  Rickys biggest purse,s have come since he left England ,and his biggest is yet to come .

                  Joes not looking for money , who are you kidding , argue with logic mate because your loosing this one , boxing is big biz with 2 priorities , make the most money you can and dont get beat trying to , and its the promoters job to see that his fighter does that , so he becomes the juggler and builder of his fighters resume just like Warren has done , create the name with the lowest risks and still save face by using a universal tool called hype , but thats the beautiful thing about boxing as a sport , sooner or later if you are based on bull**** you will get caught , Joe is at that point now , just as Ricky is at a point one step above Joe , and the two big Ogres for both fighters are Kessler and Floyd Mayweather .

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Peder
                    Facts:

                    Mundine had more than one shot at being a real champ - he blew it.

                    The belt he holds means he is in second pos. Should runner-up belts exist?

                    JC needs to fight winners for his remaining fights.

                    Afraid of Mundine? he's fighting the guy who beat him, and who holds the real belt.

                    Mundine is stylish, and a good fighter. But no way should he be a target for JC.
                    Very good post. I had hope you Danes would come through in the end!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by RodBarker
                      Your beating a dead horse , Vegas is the capitol of world boxing superfights , thats just the way it is can be proven easy and I can tell you why with the figures , Im not American .

                      Rickys biggest purse,s have come since he left England ,and his biggest is yet to come .

                      Joes not looking for money , who are you kidding , argue with logic mate because your loosing this one , boxing is big biz with 2 priorities , make the most money you can and dont get beat trying to , and its the promoters job to see that his fighter does that , so he becomes the juggler and builder of his fighters resume just like Warren has done , create the name with the lowest risks and still save face by using a universal tool called hype , but thats the beautiful thing about boxing as a sport , sooner or later if you are based on bull**** you will get caught , Joe is at that point now , just as Ricky is at a point one step above Joe , and the two big Ogres for both fighters are Kessler and Floyd Mayweather .
                      Do you have any idea how much money this fight in November will generate? The tickets sales alone will be astronomical. We're talking $80 for the cheapest in a stadium of potentially 90,000 seats - and a selllout is looking very very likely. And that's not even mentioning the new TV deals with Setanta, HBO and whatever else is being planned in such tinpot nations as Malta, Togo and Australia.

                      This fight will generate as much money as almost any other fight out there, and both fighters will be getting a payday that will definitely not be less than anything Hatton has ever received. This is a superfight in every sense of the word.

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