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  • squealpiggy
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    Quitters...

    Today I read an eloquent piece by Red Young in the anthology of boxing yarns "The Greatest Boxing Stories Ever Told (Thirty six incredible tales from the ring)" edited by Jeff Silverman. Red Young was writing of the No Mas incident, and comparing it with other occasions when boxers quit.

    One paragraph in particular caught my eye:

    The Sweet Science is a harsh mistress and under her cruel rules the deadliest sin is to give up under punishment. The most damning criticism that can be made of a fighter is to say, in the parlance of the fight mob, that he is a bit of a kiyi or that he has a touch of the geezer in him, meaning a streak of cowardice. The fact that no coward walks up the steps and into the ring isn't good enough for the fight mob. It is further required that when his number comes up, the fighter must endure pain and punishment without complaint as long as he is conscious.
    I sometimes tire of reading jibes on Boxingscene about quitters and cowards, mainly I suspect from those who have never once had the cojones to step through the ropes, who have never faced so much as an honest smack in the jaw in their life. It's a bizarre and somewhat saddening irony that the fiercest critics of so-called cowards are the ones who were never brave enough to even put themselves into a situation where there was a choice between quitting and pain.

    I'm not saying that courage and heart are not qualities to admire in a fighter. But admiring those qualities should not amount to ridiculing those without them.
  • adamk1304
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    #2
    I'd rather a boxer was intelligent enough to quit when he's hurt as opposed to ending up like ali.

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    • McNulty
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      #3
      Originally posted by adamk1304
      I'd rather a boxer was intelligent enough to quit when he's hurt as opposed to ending up like ali.
      Your making two conflicting points and dont even know it. Ali should have qiut @ a certain point in the game...no doi!

      The author is talking about quitting on your stool or during the fight. Which I totally agree with. I've fought AM's and sparred w/major belt holders. My 1st sparring session was with Ricky Gonzalez...Ams star that beat Joey Gamache. I was gassed and hurt and wanted to quit and stopped for a second....know what he did? Punched me and told me to never quit.

      Thats the name of the game. Quitting is cowardice and weak. One punch can change a fight and if your not strong enough to accept that and have quitting inside you, then you should hang up the gloves and never bring up that you boxed out of fear that you might get exposed.

      Its all about being hurt, and how you react when the **** hits the fan. Thats why storys of boxing are so great. I'm not saying not knowing when to quit taking fights...quitting in the ring is forbidden. If it looks like you might die...then sure...quit...your not a coward. I'm speaking within reason gents.

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      • adamk1304
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        I wasn't referring to ali 's career in any way, just his current physical state. I can't stand the criticism tszyu gets for quitting against hatton, despite the fact that doctors discovered swelling on the brain after the fight. In situations such as this, quitting should not be frowned upon.

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        • wolfgang
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          I agree with you Mcnulty, fighters who quit on the stool should just retire, if you are fighting just for the money, and to make it past the 12 round, dont discredit your legacy and cheat the fans.

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          • BKM-
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            #6
            Originally posted by McNulty
            Its all about being hurt, and how you react when the **** hits the fan. Thats why storys of boxing are so great. I'm not saying not knowing when to quit taking fights...quitting in the ring is forbidden. If it looks like you might die...then sure...quit...your not a coward. I'm speaking within reason gents.
            Agreed. Take Gerald McClellan for example, he quit fighting on because he was about to die. But things like fear, and punishment(not extreme) should not be reasons for a real fighter to quit.

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            • brently1979
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              #7
              Fretias quit like a ***** against Diaz, he needs a heart transplant.

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              • Gareth Ivanovic
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                #8
                It's a slippery slope. I give respect to anybody who steps in the ring, but there are occassions when it feels like a fighter can go on, but decides just to take that check.

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                • McNulty
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by adamk1304
                  I wasn't referring to ali 's career in any way, just his current physical state. I can't stand the criticism tszyu gets for quitting against hatton, despite the fact that doctors discovered swelling on the brain after the fight. In situations such as this, quitting should not be frowned upon.
                  Tszyu had 2 opponents that night. Hatton and Parris. He does not follow into this category.

                  Got a source for the swelling of the brain? News to me.

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                  • McNulty
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by brently1979
                    Fretias quit like a ***** against Diaz, he needs a heart transplant.
                    I like that one...heart transplant. Noted!

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