I really dont know why some of you idiots keep up with this crap

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  • GranTorino
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    #41
    Originally posted by wmute
    it is also interesting to notice that Wlad lost only three times, ALL OF THEM BY STOPPAGE.
    Apparently you didnt' see any of the fights. As I've already said, they weren't by stoppage with him being KO'd because of his chin. You're not paying attention. Watch the vids.

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    • wmute
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      #42
      Originally posted by GranTorino
      Apparently you didnt' see any of the fights. As I've already said, they weren't by stoppage with him being KO'd because of his chin. You're not paying attention. Watch the vids.
      so you are saying that Wlad was unable to continue because he was tired?

      funny because I thought he was hurt, and I think the ref agreed.

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      • juggernautburn
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        #43
        Originally posted by beez721
        3 times over a big span of 51 fights isnt anything to be ashamed with. espescially the fact that 2 were due to exhaustion with the one being brutally avenged
        a lot of fighters get ko stoppages due to exhaustion, a KO is a KO.

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        • wmute
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          #44
          Originally posted by juggernautburn
          a lot of fighters get ko stoppages due to exhaustion, a KO is a KO.
          are you crazy? those are the other fighters. every time Wlad is stopped or floored, there is good reason behind it.

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          • eazy_mas
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            #45
            Rahman KOed Lewis by first softing him by jabbing to the body and then put the the money punch straight right

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            • GranTorino
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              #46
              Originally posted by wmute
              so you are saying that Wlad was unable to continue because he was tired?

              funny because I thought he was hurt, and I think the ref agreed.
              Wrong. The ref agreed he couldn't continue, in reference to the Brewster fight. Which is true because he was exhausted. Same with the Purrity fight. Purrity never put him down.

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              • wmute
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                #47
                Originally posted by GranTorino
                Wrong. The ref agreed he couldn't continue, in reference to the Brewster fight. Which is true because he was exhausted. Same with the Purrity fight. Purrity never put him down.
                You might have seen a fight in 2005: Jose Luis Castillo vs Diego Corrales (maybe you have seen this one, even if Wlad was not in it). The fight was stopped with Castillo NOT down, and he was never put down in the fight.

                Surely it was because Castillo was tired, right?

                WHAT THE ****? SINCE WHEN DO YOU HAVE TO BE DOWN TO BE HURT AND UNABLE TO CONTINUE?

                Get over it, your boy was stopped. Quit making ridiculous ifs and buts to convince people that his chin is the second coming of Jorge Chuvalo.

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                • GranTorino
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by wmute
                  You might have seen a fight in 2005: Jose Luis Castillo vs Diego Corrales (maybe you have seen this one, even if Wlad was not in it). The fight was stopped with Castillo NOT down, and he was never put down in the fight.

                  Surely it was because Castillo was tired, right?

                  WHAT THE ****? SINCE WHEN DO YOU HAVE TO BE DOWN TO BE HURT AND UNABLE TO CONTINUE?

                  Get over it, your boy was stopped. Quit making ridiculous ifs and buts to convince people that his chin is the second coming of Jorge Chuvalo.

                  Yea, he was stopped. That's a given. Im not debating that he lost the fight. This thread is about his chin and the misconception that it's weak. Stay on topic, big boy. This is why I provided all the proof that I did. Vid of him getting hit with the best people have to offer and not going down.

                  There's nothign wrong with his chin. It's as good as anyone elses. And you have yet to prove me wrong, while I HAVE proven you wrong with video to back it. Why do you keep arguing. You can't argue when there's ****ing video in front of your face contradicting you.

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                  • Thunder Lips
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                    #49
                    As I recall Lewis got hit with several right hands in the first Rahman fight actually, one of which had him hurt before the home run shot on the ropes. Lewis was also able to endure(just barely) several hard clean shots from Vitali and roided up Holyfield, so it's really hard to call him a glass chin. Yeah, McCall caught him but that's McCall.

                    I wouldn't say Wlad has a weak chin either. I don't remember the Purrity fight but he was teetering like the slightest breeze would blow him down before Brewster ever even hit him. Yeah, Corrie Sanders decked him but that's Corrie Sanders. Wlad has took hard shots from guys like Peter and endured. I wouldn't say either man has a weak chin. Their not ****ing Chuvalo eating Foreman right hands without moving, but I don't see them crumbling everytime their caught like people seem to make out sometimes.
                    Last edited by Thunder Lips; 07-18-2007, 08:04 PM.

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                    • Run
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                      #50
                      First off, any heavyweight can get knocked out.

                      Of course we're not talking about the goddam Tuas and McCalls of this World, those guys are just sherman tanks.

                      But the only time IMO Wlad has been "knocked out" was against Sanders with the as stated "sneaky" punches. He didn't prepare for a southpaw and he had limited information about Sanders...he and his camp admitted that flat out.

                      He collapsed from exhaustion against Puritty and he collapsed from exhaustion against Brewster. If you think those punches Brewster was throwing is what did him in........you weren't paying attention. He got up from the canvas and was perfectly coherent it just looked like he was about to die of a flu......he was totally drained and had zero stamina left.

                      The knockdowns against Peter were understandable because let's remember something.........Peter is a huge puncher who caught Wlad with shots on the back of the head that affected his equilibrium and balance.

                      TOS flash floored him with a right hand that was more the case of Wlad being off balance than the punch actually flooring him. He got right back up and you could see that's all it was.......a flash knockdown.

                      I think his chin is better than you people give him credit for..........you're acting like he gets blown out of there like TOS did against Mesi where he layed on the canvas in a coma for a couple of minutes.



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