Do You Have to Lose a Fight to be Considered Great?

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  • !! $iN
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    Do You Have to Lose a Fight to be Considered Great?

    A lot of people believe that a fighter cannot achieve greatness unless he comes back from a loss. Even the man considered to be the best boxer that ever lived, "Sugar" Ray Robinson, had his share of losses. Do you agree that a fighter cannot be considered great until he shows the ability to come back from defeat?
  • Orange Sneakers
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    #2
    No. Greatness is taking risks.

    Eubank's just a ****er

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    • NYCHeavyHitz
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      #3
      Hell no. You don't even have to LOOK like you're about to lose, if you're THAT good, you're that good. Just fight everybody.(Yeah, that goes for you, Mayweather!)

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      • robjr
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        #4
        no you dont gota lose, but you have to atleast step up to the best instead of choosing oppononts like floyd does... he will avoid shane mosley for a while..

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        • FeedMeHoney
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          #5
          Originally posted by Orange Sneakers
          No. Greatness is taking risks.

          Eubank's just a ****er
          not only that, it shows you have the resolve to recover from a setback. Something which fighters like Hamed and Lacy struggled with.

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          • The Raging Bull
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            #6
            If you fight the best fighters available and still don't lose (ala Marciano) then in my opinion you don't need to lose to be considered great.

            But for most boxers, if they fight all the top challengers available they will eventually lose by the law of averages.

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            • leff
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              #7
              Originally posted by !! SiN
              A lot of people believe that a fighter cannot achieve greatness unless he comes back from a loss. Even the man considered to be the best boxer that ever lived, "Sugar" Ray Robinson, had his share of losses. Do you agree that a fighter cannot be considered great until he shows the ability to come back from defeat?
              no, but is seems like you have to go threw some hard fought fights and get kd a couple off time to earn respect.

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              • TRUE WARRIOR
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                #8
                if you are fighting the best out there then you will lose no matter how good you are. if you duck fighters and are a coward thats how you stay undefeated.

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                • YNWA
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                  #9
                  $in - youre the one who got ****d by a british man arent you?

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                  • Ramamaiden
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                    #10
                    in a way i agree with that satement. thats because i believe that if a fighter is able to comeback from a loss and win the rematch, is because he has become stronger and that also proves that he is mentally strong enough to overcome from a defeat, something that not everyone can do.

                    but of course, if a guy fought the best out there and always won, then there is no doubt that his greatness is obvious :P

                    But i think that like RagingBull said, by the law of averages, if you fight all the best out there you eventually should lose.
                    Its like tennis, even federer loses :P...hahaha

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