Sanders Would Still Kill Wladimir!!!

[Banderivets]

I might agree that the stuff might not work with a "real pro" boxer, someone their size whose a James Toney skill wise.

But Sanders dont have skills. What he has is a big head, fast hands and a big punch, and he gets tagged like no tomorrow.

Maybe Im missing something...


I mean the only reason why anyone is talking about him is because he KOed Wlad. Before that no one knew of him.

[Derranged_]

Its not like Manny did anything special. For all the **** he talks about other fighters not being aggressive offensivley, all Manny does is teach the big guys to stand up straight, use your size by throwing a million jabs and jumping back anytime someone swings, and just being super cautious. Its the same thing he did with Lewis. It makes you much harder to beat but its not like he really taught them anything. The only difference is that they fight 10x more cautious now and do nothing but throw 90% jabs with the occasional big punch. It works because normally Lennox, Vitali, and Wlad are way bigger then there opponent or there fighting a giant bum like Mcline.

None of that stuff works with a real pro with skill like Sanders. That jab is not going to slow him down and he's not some bum who cant get around it and land. This fight comes down to one thing and it has nothing at all to do with Wlad. The only question is if Sanders can be in-shape which is a big if and is he not over the hill which I dont think he is. If he's in shape then he will own him each time, sort of like the guy said with Foreman & Frazier

I agree that Sanders conditioning will be an issue coming into this fight. But, Klitschko is a much more focused fighter than he was and would not make the same mistakes he did in the first fight. Sanders came at him with a style that he had never seen, nevermind prepare for. Having said that, Wlad would be prepared for any 'look' that Sanders could give him and would have a sound strategy to beat him. I just can't see Sanders beating this new prime version of Wladimir Klitschko...

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I might agree that the stuff might not work with a "real pro" boxer, someone their size whose a James Toney skill wise.

But Sanders dont have skills. What he has is a big head, fast hands and a big punch, and he gets tagged like no tomorrow.

Maybe Im missing something...


I mean the only reason why anyone is talking about him is because he KOed Wlad. Before that no one knew of him.

i think the sanders that turned up against wlad the first time would still beat him as imo wlad hasn't improved much, a bit but not much but i agree that sanders didnt have good defense, i think he had the ability to be much better than he was he just couldn't be bothered to train. he appeared to rely on his basic skill and athletic ability but never developed it.

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I agree that Sanders conditioning will be an issue coming into this fight. But, Klitschko is a much more focused fighter than he was and would not make the same mistakes he did in the first fight. Sanders came at him with a style that he had never seen, nevermind prepare for. Having said that, Wlad would be prepared for any 'look' that Sanders could give him and would have a sound strategy to beat him. I just can't see Sanders beating this new prime version of Wladimir Klitschko...

sanders now doesn't have more than a punchers.

[Banderivets]

i think the sanders that turned up against wlad the first time would still beat him as imo wlad hasn't improved much, a bit but not much but i agree that sanders didnt have good defense, i think he had the ability to be much better than he was he just couldn't be bothered to train. he appeared to rely on his basic skill and athletic ability but never developed it.

Thats your opinion and I respect it. But I just dont see it mate. Of all the times I watched that fight I dont know wtf Wlad was thinking coming into the fight, just came in wide with the shots and got rocked like no tomorrow. It's as if he knew there is some ***** in the locker room waiting for him after the fight.

As far as improved....He is just a different fighter then pre sanders. Thats my opinion. He was an offencive machine who came in and disposed of guys like nothing. Today he tasted defeat and realized that his old style wont work against top5 guys.

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Thats your opinion and I respect it. But I just dont see it mate. Of all the times I watched that fight I dont know wtf Wlad was thinking coming into the fight, just came in wide with the shots and got rocked like no tomorrow. It's as if he knew there is some ***** in the locker room waiting for him after the fight.

As far as improved....He is just a different fighter then pre sanders. Thats my opinion. He was an offencive machine who came in and disposed of guys like nothing. Today he tasted defeat and realized that his old style wont work against top5 guys.

I just feel that sanders had the power to KO wlad and even if he did dominate the fight i think sanders could KO him, but wlad does do a better job of holding back his punches and not punching him self out he also holds more and jabs more but i just don't think his defense has improved much thats why i still think a fit sanders could get a ko, but like i said the current sanders don't stand a chance.

[PBDS]

Aint nothing little about me, clown. Im much bigger then you think I am and you wouldnt say that **** in my face. Wlad has proved that by doing what? The only semi tough guy he's fought since then is Peter and everyone knows he's flawed and is never in top shape. He still even got dropped 3 times in that fight so how great is his jab? Sanders will eat that **** up

...And another ***gity ass internet tough guy talks about how bad he is. You tell him DLT!!!! Give him that internet beat down tough guy.

[FibreOptic]

Let Sanders get a win over a top guy before we talk about a rematch with Wlad.

[EsB818]

In a rematch i think Wlad beats Sanders just as bad, if not worse, than Vitali beat Sanders.