mayweather retired in 2002

[Joartcc3]

hey man just use some basic common sense. why would mayweather turn down 8 million to fight this man? there is no excuse to duck the biggest payday of your career unless its fear.

Don't bet on ****** Fake Floyd fans to ever use common sense.

Coz if they use common sense, they will just get ****** by their own arguments.

You should count on these things from ****** Fake Floyd fans.

Hypocrisy
Double Standards
Utter lack of plain and basic common sense
Logical contradictions

And just about everything else that is whacked.

[deevel79]

I agree with you PBF business decisions doesn't effect his fans pockets. But you (not you in particular) can't hate on a man for making smart business decisions. Honestly if the shoe was on the other foot you just like you do now in your own life would make the decision that benefits you the most not anybody else besides your kids if you have any.
You can't really knock his business decision he got the same amount of money to face Baldomir and at the same time became recognized as the real welterweight champ. So now he is in the drivers seat when it comes to negotiations. Smart move to me.
I never knock a man's hustle even if I don't like it because thats that mans hustle and it doesn't affect my hustle.

Im not knocking his hustle. But at the same time, he shouldnt be contradicting himself when he states that he is fighting for legacy, when in fact he is only trying to fatten his bank account.

[tredh]

All fighters fight to fatten they're bank accounts first then legacy. You all also can't blame PBF for every fight yall wanted to see him in not happening. All these ducking threads weren't made about Hatton when he turned him down twice. They weren't made about Mosley when he turned him down twice. But now that Mosley is ready and PBF isn't taking the fight right away he is scared. Its too much bias on here towards PBF. I admit that I am a huge PBF fan but can admit he isn't perfect but most of the **** said on here about him is people speaking from the fact that they don't like him as a person has nothing to do with his boxing. So in turn they don't hold others to the same standards as they do PBF. **** nobody made a thread about Margarito turning down his biggest payday against Winky Wright when he kept talking all that **** about everybody scared to fight him.

[tredh]

Ha? please read your post again.

You just contradicted himself.

You're saying he's not afraid but just making smart decisions?

Yeah right. When you claim you're great, you don't make SMART BUSINESS DECISIONS. You prove to all naysayers you're the best.

Plain and basic common sense.

And dadon.

Between your opinion and Fake Floyd's own words that he's not there to prove to the fans who's the best, we both know what stands.

So in many ways, you just owned yourself.

Fake Floyd himself admitted that he's not there to fight the best but make smart decisions.

If you still refute that, well here's the vid and read the lips of your Fake Floyd. Afterall between your opinion and the words of Fake Floyd, we both know what stands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOSYzIKJFro

You really believe the bolded statement? Or were you just a little hot under the collar and typing out of emotion?

[deevel79]

All fighters fight to fatten they're bank accounts first then legacy. You all also can't blame PBF for every fight yall wanted to see him in not happening. All these ducking threads weren't made about Hatton when he turned him down twice. They weren't made about Mosley when he turned him down twice. But now that Mosley is ready and PBF isn't taking the fight right away he is scared. Its too much bias on here towards PBF. I admit that I am a huge PBF fan but can admit he isn't perfect but most of the **** said on here about him is people speaking from the fact that they don't like him as a person has nothing to do with his boxing. So in turn they don't hold others to the same standards as they do PBF. **** nobody made a thread about Margarito turning down his biggest payday against Winky Wright when he kept talking all that **** about everybody scared to fight him.

In regards to Margo/Winky, it was Margo who initially made the offer to Winky, and WINKY turned it down, only to make a B.S counter offer.

[tredh]

In regards to Margo/Winky, it was Margo who initially made the offer to Winky, and WINKY turned it down, only to make a B.S counter offer.

Why was Winky's offer BS? Don't really know the whole story.

[deevel79]

You really believe the bolded statement? Or were you just a little hot under the collar and typing out of emotion?

Tredh. How can u argue that? It came out of Floyd's own mouth! "im not fighting to prove who's the best" How much more clear can he be?

[deevel79]

Why was Winky's offer BS? Don't really know the whole story.

Here's an article i found:

It appears that Wright is a bit annoyed that Top Rank offered Floyd Mayweather, Jr. $8 million dollars to face Margarito, and only offered him $4 million. Although Wright can earn between $5-6 million when considering the pay-per-view revenue, he still insists the the offer is too low and he can make the same amount of money by staging a fight in Florida.

"People can say I don't want the fight, and hell no I don't want the fight. If you're going to offer Floyd Mayweather $8 million and offer me $4 million, I don't want the fight. I can make $4 million fighting here in Tampa. Why should I take that fight? I don't need Margarito. He needs me. That's the difference, and that is what his people will have to learn. Offer me $8 million and I'll take the fight," said Wright

Bob Arum on the other hand, said the reason he made a much lower offer to Wright is because Wright would be a much bigger favorite to beat Margarito than Mayweather. Arum feels that if Wright does not take the fight, his name can be added to the list of fighters ducking the tough fighter from Mexico. Arum did not say who Margarito would face if Wright officially rejects the offer, but the list of pay-per-view opponents is growing thin.

"It's the biggest guarantee Winky has received. It's a hell of a deal. If he doesn't take it, he's just another fighter who has Margarito-phobia. If Margarito fights Floyd, it's probably 8-to-5 in Floyd's favor. If he fights Winky, it's probably 4-to-1 in Winky's favor. It would be viewed as much more of a one-sided fight, and that's the reason for the [lower] offer," Arum said.

[tredh]

Tredh. How can u argue that? It came out of Floyd's own mouth! "im not fighting to prove who's the best" How much more clear can he be?

So let me get this right. Just because you are great at something you can't make smart business decisions? What kind of sense does that make?
If you are great at something that means you do it better than the majority of people doing what you do. So to me that means you should be paid more for doing that than the majority which would in turn be a smart business decision.
That is like saying Michael Jordan should have gotten all that endorsement money from NIke and all those other companies because he was great at basketball. All he should have done is gone out there on the court show everybody he was great and take what ever money he was offered instead of maximizing his dollars. Come on man you know that statement makes no sense at all.
I know PBF fights for money first and I see no problem with that. Because as much as I like PBF when gets old I not going to take of him. Look at all these old ass boxers still fighting because they don't have any money out there making fools of themselves. **** Jose Luis Castillo is a recent prime example of a fighter yall love to respect for fighting for legacy. Now after all those years of fighting he couldn't even pay his fine of $250,000.00 for not making weight twice when he was supposed to fight Diego Corrales. Over 10 years in boxing and he couldn't afford $250,000.00 but yet yall in here saying **** smart business decisions yeah ****ing right.

[deevel79]

So let me get this right. Just because you are great at something you can't make smart business decisions? What kind of sense does that make?
If you are great at something that means you do it better than the majority of people doing what you do. So to me that means you should be paid more for doing that than the majority which would in turn be a smart business decision.
That is like saying Michael Jordan should have gotten all that endorsement money from NIke and all those other companies because he was great at basketball. All he should have done is gone out there on the court show everybody he was great and take what ever money he was offered instead of maximizing his dollars. Come on man you know that statement makes no sense at all.
I know PBF fights for money first and I see no problem with that. Because as much as I like PBF when gets old I not going to take of him. Look at all these old ass boxers still fighting because they don't have any money out there making fools of themselves. **** Jose Luis Castillo is a recent prime example of a fighter yall love to respect for fighting for legacy. Now after all those years of fighting he couldn't even pay his fine of $250,000.00 for not making weight twice when he was supposed to fight Diego Corrales. Over 10 years in boxing and he couldn't afford $250,000.00 but yet yall in here saying **** smart business decisions yeah ****ing right.

Jordan faced the best teams and players year after year regardless of how much money he made. Bad comparison!