What exactly does it mean to be the undisputed champion?

**MickyHatton** · 07-03-2007, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by David06

I always thought it meant to unify all the belts, or at least the major ones. But then I'm reading on ESPN and "I will be the five-time undisputed heavyweight champion of the world," Holyfield said."

I mean, Holyfield doesn't really think he's going to unify all the belts does he? So "undisputed champion" must obviously mean something other than what I originally thought.

No your right.

Holyfield thinks he is going to tidy up the division, which he wont although it needs it!

**David06** · 07-03-2007, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by MickyHatton

No your right.

Holyfield thinks he is going to tidy up the division, which he wont although it needs it!

I can't believe Holyfield actually said that then.

**porlie** · 07-03-2007, 11:52 AM

I can believe he said it, hes always had great belief in his own abilities.

**Fighting Cougar** · 07-03-2007, 11:54 AM

Undisputed isnt that WBA IBF and the biggest one WBC.

**Fighting Cougar** · 07-03-2007, 11:57 AM

But I think you now need the WBO as well right? Or so I heard.

**PRboxingfan** · 07-03-2007, 12:05 PM

Undisputed champ is when everyone considers you the champ at that weightclass, regardless of how many belts you have. You can be undisputed even if you hold one or two belts (as Kostya was at 140 before fighting Hatton).

**David06** · 07-03-2007, 12:09 PM

Hmm so does that mean it is possible beat the undisputed champion, but not become the undisputed champion? I mean, if Tyson was the undisputed champion when he lost to Douglas...does Douglas become the undisputed champion? I would have to say no, but I could be wrong.

**niceguy45** · 07-03-2007, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by David06

Hmm so does that mean it is possible beat the undisputed champion, but not become the undisputed champion? I mean, if Tyson was the undisputed champion when he lost to Douglas...does Douglas become the undisputed champion? I would have to say no, but I could be wrong.

in my mind undisputed= without a question/dispute/argue/critics a real champion in a division regardless of titles owned or won or record (loss)....that' my simple minded not text book defenition of undisputed, lol

**niceguy45** · 07-03-2007, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by David06

Hmm so does that mean it is possible beat the undisputed champion, but not become the undisputed champion? I mean, if Tyson was the undisputed champion when he lost to Douglas...does Douglas become the undisputed champion? I would have to say no, but I could be wrong.

to answer your question technically yes, but did he beat the rest of the HW ? no, so he is not he simply beat the undisputed champion....Lennox Lewis was the undisputed champion before he retired

What exactly does it mean to be the undisputed champion?