Hatton Castillo Analysis

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  • .Mik.
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    #11
    Good post, I agree with most of the analysis.

    I must admit that I prefered the British commentary on Sentanta sports to the HBO commentary having seen both fights. The British one gave Castillo more credit throughout the fight and then didnt just immediately go to completely discrediting the victory for Hatton afterwards, which frankly was a ****ing disgrace considering they are supposed to be publicising him. Didnt give him his minute in the sun whatsoever.

    The British commentary also did a better job of describing the action I found. Duke McKenzie quite rightly (in my opinion) stated that most of the 'holding' wasnt actually holding whatsoever. It was very close swarming fighting. Hatton was RIGHT in his face (something that both the British AND American commentators agreed was to Castillo's advantage rather than his own...though it seemed they were proven wrong there). There was very little 'hugging' in that sense meaning wrapping their arms around each other's shoulders. There was very little linking of arms/tying up (from what I honestly saw, most of it that was present came from Castillo, which is something that the American commentators completely neglected to admit). However, moreso than either of that, there was a lot of in-fighting where Hatton was using his shoulders to bully Castillo around, move him backwards and then look for angles with short punches.

    Now I've got to admit, I'm actually quite growing to like that. I dont think that its boring, its not hanging on at all. Its pushing, using strength and creating openings with minimal space. I personally find that brutal bulldozer style more exciting than seeing a fight take place at distance.

    Sure, its not Gatti vs Ward. Its actually quite a bit more tactical. Gatti vs Ward was a fight with virtually no defense, more like a drunken brawl where haymaker punches land because both fighters hands are down and they stagger around the ring hefting shots at each other. You'll never get a fight like that with Hatton because he quite sensibly takes a calculated risk rather than a crazy one. He'll take some hard shots coming in, to find his own openings, but rarely clean ones or flush ones, or one where the fighter has been able to generate huge amounts of power because of how close in proximity he is to his opponent.

    Call me crazy, but I quite like that kind of educated aggressive fighting. It'll certaily lead to him having a more sustained career at a high level than the likes of Gatti or Ward or Morales.

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      #12
      Hmm, i saw him take several flush shots against castillo and Urango and Collzao, his defence is soooo leaky, his holding is a clever tactic and he held loads in that fight, im sorry loads,

      Its important to watch the HBO version when possible because HBO does influence american boxing fans, so it may give us an insight into what they think.

      Again Hatton fought so well in that fight, if he can tie up mayweather im gonna give him a chance to win that fight, i think if he cant do that straight away that fight doesnt go 12 rounds.

      To be honest, hatton wont fight floyd next, i reckon he may take a tune up, castillo is the worst guy he could have fought at 140 before a match with mayweather, like dlh beating mayorga, the styles are so different, castillo and floyd are nothing alike in boxing ability, so thats my take so far.

      And Duke Mc Kensie is the worst commentator in boxing, his scorecards never add up, and he has to give rounds away to make them look respectable lol.

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      • diamond fists
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        #13
        if hatton decides to take a tune up fight first at 147 , who do you think it should be?

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          #14
          I saw flush shots against Collazo. Very very few against Urango or Castillo. He took some decent shots, but nothing that you'd expect to hurt anyone, unlike some of the ones he took against Collazo.

          I didnt see a lot of holding in that fight. Certainly not of the hugging variety and what I did see was fairly 50/50 between Hatton and Castillo.

          I I know that Duke is ****e. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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            #15
            Originally posted by diamond fists
            if hatton decides to take a tune up fight first at 147 , who do you think it should be?
            Judah, thing is, Thats a fight Judah can win, even now, Hatton would be the fave, but judah could give hatton problems.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Technical_Skill
              Judah, thing is, Thats a fight Judah can win, even now, Hatton would be the fave, but judah could give hatton problems.
              i think you could be right there , even though he has lost to Mayweather and Cotto , he would be a good test at that weight

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                #17
                Originally posted by diamond fists
                i think you could be right there , even though he has lost to Mayweather and Cotto , he would be a good test at that weight
                Yeah i dont care about Hatton personally, i like mayweather, but if hatton was smart he would fight judah, judah is a quick southpaw with power, but will team hatton want to risk it? Im not sure, Judah could get it together and win that fight, i would pick hatton via tko. but i wouldnt be suprised if judah won.

                Fighting a shockingly bad castillo like the one we saw on saturday night, isnt the guy to come off and then fight mayweather, mayweather is on a whole different solar system to that guy.

                But yeah, like i said before, mayweather thinks its a given he beats Hatton and i dont think he has a problem fighting him, as long as he gets real money.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Miksterious

                  I I know that Duke is ****e. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
                  Yep and thats two more times right than he will ever be, the guy's scoring is a real problem, if the Americans think Lederman is dodgy we should donate this guy to the US,

                  His scoring of Audley Harrisson vs Danny Williams 1 Was the last straw, he had harrisson something like 3 rounds up, when williams was clearly winning, then gave rounds away to make it close at the end, lol, it was a disgrace.
                  Last edited by Technical_Skill; 06-26-2007, 12:59 PM.

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                  • satori555
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                    #19
                    hbo commentary was funny though

                    manny steward "wow castillo is shot to hell. he's the worlds slowest fighter."
                    jim lampley "yeah i agree he looks like he just got shot out of a cannon hes so shot"
                    max kellerman "hi guys am i cool yet?"
                    manny and jim simultaneously "shut the **** up noob"

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                      Fighting a shockingly bad castillo like the one we saw on saturday night, isnt the guy to come off and then fight mayweather, mayweather is on a whole different solar system to that guy.

                      But yeah, like i said before, mayweather thinks its a given he beats Hatton and i dont think he has a problem fighting him, as long as he gets real money.
                      ** Floyd has probably lost $15 mil overestimating his value in big fights by taking smaller fights for less money in the past, so business sense ain't Floyd's forte.

                      Hatton is very experienced and confident at this point. All he needs is proper sparring and training to make a good fight. Thing is, probably the money in the fight is in England, Manchester specifically, and Floyd won't go there.

                      Hatton's time is now and holds the one big option, but Floyd holds multi options overtime, so I doubt the fight comes off, esp if he thinks his goon Ellerbee can pull off negotions.

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