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  • deliveryman
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    #1

    Tribute to the biggest screw job in boxing history.

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  • kayjay
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    Chavez landed good shots to the body and put the pressure on.

    Backing out of range and goofing off doesn't help your cause.

    I'm not saying Whitaker didn't win, but the biggest in history? There have been too many.

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    • CletusVanDamme
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      #3
      It is up there with the biggest but I have seen worse in less marquee fights. Miguel Angel Gongalez-Lamar Murphy was the worst title fight robbery I have witnessed. Chavez-Randall II was pretty bad as well, with Chavez punking out and getting the WBC extra point for receiving a cut from a head butt.

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      • kayjay
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        Whitaker is so painful to watch in this fight though. he moves backwards at top speed the whole time. That does count against. I'm not saying he didn't win, I'm just saying people have to understand that negative fighting is a negative.

        His punch output is decent enough though, and he lands good shots consistently on Chavez

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        • toyboy33
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          #5
          Helluva fight! Whitaker won that without any doubt from me. Masterful fight from a HOF.

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          • deliveryman
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            #6
            Originally posted by kayjay
            Whitaker is so painful to watch in this fight though. he moves backwards at top speed the whole time. That does count against. I'm not saying he didn't win, I'm just saying people have to understand that negative fighting is a negative.

            His punch output is decent enough though, and he lands good shots consistently on Chavez
            That's called Ring Generalship, and it clearly frustrated Chavez, as he was unable to cut off the ring, and was just eating jabs and hooks all night.

            That does not count against Whitaker, but it counts against Chavez.

            Whitaker was controlling the pace of the fight, Chavez was trying to, but couldn't. How should that be a negative for Whitaker?

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            • toyboy33
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              #7
              Originally posted by kayjay
              Whitaker is so painful to watch in this fight though. he moves backwards at top speed the whole time. That does count against. I'm not saying he didn't win, I'm just saying people have to understand that negative fighting is a negative.

              His punch output is decent enough though, and he lands good shots consistently on Chavez
              I guess that's your personal feeling for sure, but the man fought the only type of fight that would give him success. He hit Chavez with real punches not pitty pat like PBF sometimes does on the backfoot. He stunned Chavez plenty of times and not once lost control of the fight. If that aint ring generalship I don't know what is. As far as body shots go, Whitaker gave as good as he got to. I don't know, but it seems going forward eating punches to the face was the way to win that night.....or there was some ****ed judging?

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              • kayjay
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                You're right that Whitaker threw clean hard punches in respectable volume. He didn't fight as negatively as PBF against DLH (note: I scored it for Floyd so don't get all upset about this comment). But his movement was not good ring generalship. That means moving around your opponent and forcing him into tough spots. Whitaker moved back and away and let Chavez chase him.

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                • Zerwas1
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                  #9
                  And I thought Chavez - Taylor was the biggest robbery, anyway Julio "gift decision" Chavez is overrated.

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                  • tredh
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by kayjay
                    You're right that Whitaker threw clean hard punches in respectable volume. He didn't fight as negatively as PBF against DLH (note: I scored it for Floyd so don't get all upset about this comment). But his movement was not good ring generalship. That means moving around your opponent and forcing him into tough spots. Whitaker moved back and away and let Chavez chase him.
                    Chavez chased but he never caught him is the point. You can't get points for being aggressive if you aren't EFFECTIVE(De la Hoya was aggressive but very ineffective with his aggression). Thats why its called EFFECTIVE AGGRESSION thats what gets you points. If one person is not effective with their aggression that means their opponent is doing something to make them ineffective and that is usually good defense and ring generalship. Chavez clearly lost that fight to Sweetpea. Frankie "The Surgeon" Randall was ROBBED in his 2nd fight with Chavez.

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