Roy talks about the past, and detracts from the current 'p4p' best

[jack_the_rippuh]

I really do believe Roy though in what he said about the weight. I also felt that is why he loss and I cant believe people cant see that he was a completely different fighter when he came back down. There is no way in hell that Tarver even holds his jock if he never went up. It ruined him and I dont know why people dont aknowledge that. Its like they hate him so much and wanted him to lose so much that they completely wont let him that real excuse.

I also think the same thing happenend to Tarver but he cant say that because he knows it will take away from his RJ victory. Hopkins is my man but that was not at all the same Tarver that he fought. Tarver had nothing in that fight. Not only would Hopkins have killed him but even a bum wouldve beat Tarver. He didnt have it after that weight gain and he'll most likely will never be the same again.

I would even be scared for somone like Floyd. Floyd has moved up super quick basically just to get a fight with Oscar. What if Pac offered Floyd a big money fight right now at 140? We all know Floyd can make that weight easy but it probally will be a different Floyd now. He wont look anything like he did at 140 the 1st time around and Pac would maybe Knock him out. I also think it hurts your chin. Your just washed up. Alot of people try to say that RJ lost his reflexes and now his chin got exposed. Thats garbage like ****. He doesnt have a bad chin, he just got washed up from the weight move. Just like Tarver was about to go down against Hopkins. Floyd has shown that he can take the best punches but I bet that if he dropped quick in weight then his chin wont be anything like it was.

You've got to be kidding me.
Hopkins would've beaten Tarver anyday of his life. He has the perfect style to beat Tarver. Like his trainer said, Tarver only has a left and he can't throw his left when his legs get crossed up. Prime for prime - Hopkins destroys him.

[El Jesus]

You've got to be kidding me.
Hopkins would've beaten Tarver anyday of his life. He has the perfect style to beat Tarver. Like his trainer said, Tarver only has a left and he can't throw his left when his legs get crossed up. Prime for prime - Hopkins destroys him.

i agree, drugs, no drugs, weight no weight, tarver got ****ing spanked.

[jack_the_rippuh]

Roy claimed to have a tooth ache after Tarver I.

Lololololololol!

[LemonChiff]

The Jones who fought Tate, Toney, Tony Byrd, Thornton was streets ahead of the Jones who fought at 175. Tarver wouldn't stand a hope, just another T

[JOM'S]

He was clearly talking about Winky and Floyd.

oops. I guess he meant Pacquiao.


Scroll all the way to the bottom: http://www.thering-online.com/ringpages/ratings2.html

he said TWO P4P ... i guess he is dissing floyd & pacman

[DLT]

You've got to be kidding me.
Hopkins would've beaten Tarver anyday of his life. He has the perfect style to beat Tarver. Like his trainer said, Tarver only has a left and he can't throw his left when his legs get crossed up. Prime for prime - Hopkins destroys him.

There is a difference between beating a guy and straight up destroying him. Hopkins is a All Time Great fighter so you cant say that he wouldnt win but no way would he destroy the Tarver that fought RJ. Tarver had nothing in that fight. A bum wouldve killed him and he will probally never be the same again. You really believe that Hopkins can lose 2 fights to Taylor but can move up 2 weight classes and kill Tarver? No way thats possible unless Tarver was completely out of it and he was. Even if you think Hopkins beat Taylor, they were still super close fights. Infact, Hopkins hadnt even look that special in the couple of fights before the Taylor fight but now he's going to kill a huge Tarver that has speed, size, & strength over him? There's a reason why Tarver was a huge favorite.

Dont get me wrong, I dont even like Tarver but people do need to stop denying facts

[LemonChiff]

Anybody who had Tarver a favourite over Hopkins didn't know boxing

[jack_the_rippuh]

Anybody who had Tarver a favourite over Hopkins didn't know boxing

Agreed.

DLT, Hopkins would never lose to a left handed counter-puncher.
It's impossible.

[boxingfan4life]

I believe in RJJ as well. Its just that I don't understand why people saying hes garbage just because he lost in some of his fights. There were other great fighters in boxing history that suffered losses in their careers. Robinson, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Hearns, Leonard, Lewis, Tyson have all lost at some point whether by knockout or not. Were they considered bums and no longer good fighters because of that? No they weren't. It just happens when you box. You gonna come across a fighter or two thats gonna have you figured and catches you. The important thing is to try to bounce back and get back to where you wanna be and thats what RJJ is trying to do.

[Super_Lightweight]

Beating Ruiz gave him a sense of false confidence. He should have fought for Lewis' WBC title and let the Brit hand him his ass. At least his ego would have still been in check.

Roy's win over Ruiz was big. It hadn't happened in a long time and half of the people were picking Roy to get dropped. But Roy did go too far thinking he could go back to 175 easily.