One Thing People Are Forgetting About Cotto

[amagnin]

I like Cotto to beat Margarito. Every time people have doubted him he has come through impressively. He beat the living daylights out of Pinto (a tall guy that beat him in the amateurs); he systematically beat down Judah and Malignaggi (fast boxers). I think Cotto does the same thing to Margarito. He is an underrated boxer and he certainly is the better technician of the two. I think he lands more punches and his body attack wears down Margarito. I'm not saying he wins easily or even by KO but I like Cotto by at least UD.

[DLT]

Oh so now Quintana IS a real Welter, but he's not....when it come to...size? He either is or he isn't. You're wrong in your analysis of Quintana sir. He's 5'10, long armed, and fit. He's a strong Welterweight who just handled a HUGE light middle sized Welter in Julio. So he's not a straight ahead brawler like Margarito, but he's certainly capable of handling himself in a ring, and Cotto crushed him as if he were a lightweight. He fights nothing like Spinks...you're reaching now.

Baldomir, Clottey, Margarito....none of these guys are "elite" as you call it. Clottey is elite because he gave Margarito problems until he hurt his hand and he smoked a shot, former 130 pound Diego Corrales? Right...

Baldomir is elite because he smoked a blown up, shot Gatti who had NO chance in that fight? Right...

Margarito is the best of this crop but he still has to get past Paul Williams for this fight to even come off.

It's as if you think Cotto is just a crude, mindless slugger who will fold if someone is bigger than him and hits him back. It's growing tiresome hearing these ludicrous takes on Cotto's boxing ability. The guy can box, he can adapt in a fight, and he has what it takes to win a fight regardless of whether he's the bigger man or not. Cotto has been through all kinds of adversity already...he ain't gonna fold if he can't get his guy outta there inside of the distance you know.

Will you stop talking about Quintana like he's somebody. No one even heard of him before the 1 fight before Cotto and all he did was skool a cat who has never done anything himself. His whole claim to fame is beating a green Julio who looks just like another Bojado or something.

Then you tried to pick those other fighters apart but you can say something like that about every single one of Cotto's opponents. You say Cotto can do this or that if he's in with that kind of guy but the fact is weve never seen it and he has to prove that.

[oldgringo]

Will you stop talking about Quintana like he's somebody. No one even heard of him before the 1 fight before Cotto and all he did was skool a cat who has never done anything himself. His whole claim to fame is beating a green Julio who looks just like another Bojado or something.

Then you tried to pick those other fighters apart but you can say something like that about every single one of Cotto's opponents. You say Cotto can do this or that if he's in with that kind of guy but the fact is weve never seen it and he has to prove that.

You don't know what he (Quintana) is either so stop acting high and mighty. Quintana could go on to win a world title like Malignaggi and Torres have, and he could have a great career. Maybe he won't do much of anything. He's obviously a skilled fighter with promise though.

Was Joel Julio a highly regarded prospect with a gaudy KO record? Yes. Had he proved much of anything against great competition to that point? No. Pretty much everyone was picking him to slap Quintana around though, there's no denying that. I could dig up 100 old threads proclaiming that Julio was the next coming. If you want to say that you knew he'd be trash all along, well yeah, it's easy to say that in retrospect.

You say Cotto can do this or that if he's in with that kind of guy but the fact is weve never seen it and he has to prove that.

So you're saying that we HAVEN'T seen Cotto adapt in fights? We HAVEN'T seen Cotto fight a lot of different types of fighters with different styles? I don't want to put words in your mouth, so correct me if I'm wrong.

Well he has fought the skilled, speedy boxer - Malignaggi, Corley

He has fought the fast handed power puncher - Judah

He has fought the come forward, aggressive swarmer - N'Dou

He has fought the big puncher - Bailey

He has shown that he can box when he's being backed up and he has shown mental toughness like no other, taking hard punches, coming back from being hurt, and finishing his man.

Then you tried to pick those other fighters apart but you can say something like that about every single one of Cotto's opponents.

I'm not trying to make Cotto's opposition seem like it's legendary here chief. The point was to hint that some of these guys...mainly Baldomir and Clottey, have looked good against fighters they were supposed to look good against. Corrales, Gatti? they had no chance against those their bigger opponents. Clottey just struggled with a rugged body puncher in Richard Gutierrez, a guy who pales in comparison when it comes to Miguel Cotto.

[-Antonio-]

Will you stop talking about Quintana like he's somebody. No one even heard of him before the 1 fight before Cotto and all he did was skool a cat who has never done anything himself. His whole claim to fame is beating a green Julio who looks just like another Bojado or something.

Then you tried to pick those other fighters apart but you can say something like that about every single one of Cotto's opponents. You say Cotto can do this or that if he's in with that kind of guy but the fact is weve never seen it and he has to prove that.

Yet you are hyping up Baldomir and Clottey like they have done something. All Baldomir has done is beat up Gatti and lose 11 rounds to Mayweather. Sure he looked good in beating Judah, but Cotto did it in more impressive fashion. Clottey is good, and Im a fan, but again he has only beaten a blown up Corrales. And I dont want to hear the broken hand excuse because Margarito broke his hand too and kept punching.

[guzi815]

That is an exceptionally outstanding post. Alot of worthy points were made. But it is still "SPECULATION" as none of it actually accured. For all it's worth, folks been saying what they will about Cotto, but one simple fact remains....he consistantly destroys his opponents. Doesn't just win, but in great boxing fashion. I'd always pay for a Cotto fight as I know I will not denied of an exciting, roller-coaster, of a fight. He gets rocked, but still...bounces back. If some one is content with thier favorite boxer just winning, and a complete "shut-out" of a fight, how can you be seriously entertained? How can you not see that this fine warrior handles adversity, and quite well.

Sorry folks, but if Cotto complete just walks right through his opponents, ala Roy Jones Jr., there will come a time when his fights will be boring, lopsided, and no excitement will build around it.

Success isn't measured by what you have...but by what "YOU DID" to get there.

[Allucard]

LOL Mayweather is 30 years now. In 2 he will be past his prime in 32. You would like THEN (but not now of course) to have cotto fight floyd and IF (because even at 32 i think mayweather would kill cotto) he wins you'd say cotto is the greatest of all time. Come on. 1st the fight wont happen, Cotto will lose as he moves up of faces someone with strong hands and stamina like baldomir. And floyd is already retired and would only comeback for Oscar or in the event someone pays more... You peoples always trying to bring back the retired. Hey, why not bring out foreman and ali and have cotto beat them for the all timer status?

[-Antonio-]

Nobody even mentioned Mayweather. In fact most of the Cotto fans, including myself agree that Mayweather would probably beat Cotto. That doesnt mean he wouldnt have the fight of his life though.

[El GAto]

No matter what Cotto is respected!!!!

One thing I have notice with Cotto is that he respects people all around him granted he may not be the one to confront you first but he does respect those who come in contact him. Also so what if Cotto ichin is suspect but he can take a hit but one thing is for the sure the people who have tested his chin out he's beat them and dropped them. I wasn't a big Cotto fan myself till I sparred him and seen him fight super Judah. Everyone was saying the same thing about Tito Trinidad about his chin and how suspect it was but yet he overcame and demolished alot of the fighters that tested it out too. One thing for sure that I do know is that he does have a name he's a role model, super athlete, Millionaire, Family man. In this game of politics and prize fighting that what we strive for as athletes.

[the_truth_1984]

Margarito would give Cotto a very tough fight but imo Cotto beats him by clear decision.I don't see any point in talking about this anyway yet especially since I think that Williams is going to beat Marg by decision.

[Left2body]

When Cotto starts taking out all these so called bigger guys, you fools will start with even more shiet like Cotto wont be able to beat some one who can spit fire, or that is a decendant of king kong.

First it was Cotto can't handle a fast guy.
Malignaggi was served.
Then it was Cotto wont handle a fast guy with speed and power.
Judah got owned.
Now it's wait until Godzilla comes from Japan blah blah blah.
Sit down.

Margarito has not even got past Williams. You are wipping your azz before you even take a ****.
Why not cross that bridge when the fight is over than you make all these Cotto/Margarito threads.

Great post Alien, yeah it looks like people keep looking for reasons to hate on Cotto instead of just enjoying his fights. Even if Cotto gets beaten who cares atleast I know he'll go out on his shield and will give his all. Thats all I expect from fighters I follow.