My Cotto, Zab, Floyd Thoughts!!!!!!

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  • DLT
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    My Cotto, Zab, Floyd Thoughts!!!!!!

    What ****in fight was everyone watching? FOTY? This was a ****in straight beat down. Im a huge Zab fan but come on. Zab landed like 5 good single blows the whole fight and that was it. He got murdered. What was all this **** about Zab showing heart? Thats not ****ing heart. All he did was stay alive for 11 rounds but he's in NY and it was his final chance. He got killed. Anyone can do that. Thats called just being a man. Showing heart is a guy like Gatti who is getting ****ing murdered but is fighting back and still trying to win. Showing heart is Chico getting destroyed but still coming at his man and trying to win. Zab quit in like the 5th round and went into a shell. Why do you think in like the 10th round his dad even told him that your kids and your hood is watching you and are talking ****. It was pathetic. His dad even know that he was being a *****. Since when do you get credit for just taking a flat out beating and surviving without doing anything? E****ally when you have the skills to do something. Thats not heart. Heart wouldve been for him to try harder, let his hands go, and be aggressive. Look at how Gatti was getting murdered by Baldy but kept coming at him. Look how Clottey was killing Chico but he fought back until the very end. Zab quit and he quit early. He was just a punching bag! Dont get me wrong, you dont have to brawl back because thats not alot of guys but like Paulie did against Cotto, you still have to be active and show your spirit. Zab was so lifeless that the only way for Cotto to lose after the 5th round was for Cotto to just completely go into the tank and he has too much heart to do that, unlike Zab.

    Also, Sweet Pea was so right. I cant believe no one saw that. I havent heard one fan on here or reporter talk about Zab going the wrong way. If you go back and rewatch it then you can see that Zab got killed all night going right but the few times he did well was because he was going left. Go watch a old Sweet Pea fight. He never goes to his right except for every once in awhile just to keep his opponent guessing. Whenever Zab went to his right then Cotto hardly ever hit him. He had to reach for everything and when he did land it was only one shot at a time. Infact, it would frustrate Cotto at times and he would switch to Southpaw and then wreck Zab. When you go to your right then you make that power puncher always have to pick up and reset because your moving out his range. When you go to the left your walking into the fighters range. Zab walked right into Cotto's power all night long. It was so ******. Sometimes your going to get trapped in a corner but you have to do like Sweet pea and dip & roll out the corner. Zab's dad also sucks. He is the worst trainer in boxing. All he says in general **** that even a kid knows and can see. All he said was for Zab to let his hands go. He never told him to go right one time, he never told him to set traps and throw the straight left when he comes in, he never told Zab to ever go to the body or anything.

    Cotto is also being so overrated in this fight. You might ask me how can I say that when he flat out destroyed Zab? He flat out destroyed Zab because Zab was basically a punching bag all night. He's a very good fighter but that wasnt even a real fight. He didnt even have to do ****. Zab did what he always does. He does a little early but then he goes into a shell. I have to pull up the thread but I talked about it on here before the fight. I said one thing I hope & pray doesnt happened is that things start going wrong and then Zab goes into a shell. I said that Zab has done that against bums and it looks bad. The crowd boos and the fight is boring but most of the time he's still good enough to win. He did it to Baldy and Baldy killed him and had him running at times. I said that if this happened against Cotto then it would be brutal. He would kill Zab and it would be embarrasing. I said that he would take a flat out beating and thats what it was. Infact, my exact line was is "if Cotto breaks Zab's spirit", and that is what he did. Why is credit getting so much credit when he didnt even have to do anything? This was basically the same Zab that fought Floyd. Even Floyd started punishing him but he's obviously not going to wreck him like Cotto. Floyd had him cut up too, eye swollen, and some thought that Floyd might stop him. You just times that by 10 for Cotto because thats Cotto's game. It happened against Baldy also and he had Zab actually running from him but he was too slow and didnt have enough pure power to wreck Zab. This isnt surprising. Basically Cotto threw non stop, nearly all were full blown power shots, and nearly all connected because Zab put up no kind of D, showed no will, and just stood there and took it like target practice. Does Zab even know how to block a punch?
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    This brings me to a Floyd fight. People are smoking if they watch this fight and then start talking about Floyd. Its a completely different fight. Rewatch this Zab fight. Cotto didnt even do anything special. Zab was basically just a punching bag. He stopped throwing anything and he was always in range. People also get speed & quickness mixed up with great footwork. Zab has some of the worst footwork in boxing. He always goes the wrong way, alot of times he just moves instead of circling, and he crosses over his feet alot. Its a totally different fight against Floyd and if you cant see that then your smoking. No way Floyd is just going to be a punching bag. Floyd is so calm in the ring, never gets rattled, always moves the right way, and is super smart. There is no chance for Cotto to land even a quarter of the amount of punches that he landed on Zab. Floyd will watch how Cotto somewhat struggled when Zab went to his right. Zab always gets rattled when you pressure him. Thats why even Floyd did. No way Floyd would get shook by Cotto's pressure. He knows its coming and he will flat out be prepared and nothing will be a shock to him. Cotto also leaned in alot and got caught clean. Floyd will throw those straight punches down the pipe all night. When he does get into a position where he gets caught up then Floyd will let his hands go. You have to get the other guys respect and Zab didnt do that.

    **** Floyd, lets talk about Margarito. Everyone is just assuming Cotto would win this fight. Margarito is completely different then Zab. Did you guys see the Judah fight? Cotto wont have it that easy with any of the top guys. None of those guys go into shells and none of them turn into punching bags with no defense. You think Margarito is just going to sit there and let Cotto rip him? You think that same **** would work on Mosley who is strong and throws big power shots? You think that same **** is going to work on a ox like Clottey who would block alot of them and fire back with combos? This fight proved nothing except that Zab looked like a *****. It hurts me to say it but its true. I cant believe all the praise he got and all this FOTY crap. Cotto murdered him and Zab quit. He didnt try and he stayed there looking like target practice. It showed nothing. That was not heart at all. Paulie showed heart. Cotto couldnt finish Paulie so you know he wont finish Floyd. Its a completely different fight then what you saw tonight. Dont get confused because there both fast & slick. That punching bag performance was pitiful. No way there should be a rematch and Zab will never be good with his dad training him. The only way I would watch a rematch is with Sweet Pea being the trainer. Zab also needs to be like Floyd and get some big sparring partners. If your going to fight a guy like Cotto & Margarito then you have to spar with huge guys. It makes a difference. Thats why Floyd is prepared for there power and there size

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    • borikua
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      ****...I'll read all that later. But what do you think about what Larry said bout Cotto's future opponents DLT? Do you like the idea of Cotto-Oscar in the Yankee Stadium next year?

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      • FIGHTING_FLIP
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        #4
        i didnt read the hole post but i agreed with every part that i read..but it kinda sounds like your puttin miguel cotto down to much and i do not agree with that..

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          Originally posted by borikua
          ****...I'll read all that later. But what do you think about what Larry said bout Cotto's future opponents DLT? Do you like the idea of Cotto-Oscar in the Yankee Stadium next year?
          Hell yeah but I dont like the fact of Oscar fighting once a year for the rest of his life. Sooner or later he's going to show that age & rust. Id rather see the fight happened now but I know it wont

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          • pbftxrs316
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            another good post dlt. keep it up man. but, i'll igve cotto his due. he's a humble son of a ***** and i respect his talent a lot. he's a fighter's fighter and he deserves his due. imo, he would lose to floyd, but this man is a great fighter, no doubt about it.

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              Originally posted by FIGHTING_FLIP
              i didnt read the hole post but i agreed with every part that i read..but it kinda sounds like your puttin miguel cotto down to much and i do not agree with that..
              Tru dat and I didnt mean it to come off that way. I didnt want to rip Cotto as much as I wanted to rip Zab and just say that people are mistkakened if they now think that Cotto will do that to just about anyone, including Floyd or Margarito. Cotto is a beast no doubt but the next fight will tell everyone how good he really is, no matter who he fights. Considering if he fights any of the top guys like most think he will

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                Originally posted by pbftxrs316
                another good post dlt. keep it up man. but, i'll igve cotto his due. he's a humble son of a ***** and i respect his talent a lot. he's a fighter's fighter and he deserves his due. imo, he would lose to floyd, but this man is a great fighter, no doubt about it.
                Yeah I have to give it to him. He still did that to Zab and not many can. He looks like a mini Tyson at times and he was digging those shots like he had a axe. He's definatly a ox and will be tough to handle but I just dont think none of the other guys will let him have all those free clean power shots while not giving anything back in return

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                  Originally posted by DLT
                  Tru dat and I didnt mean it to come off that way. I didnt want to rip Cotto as much as I wanted to rip Zab and just say that people are mistkakened if they now think that Cotto will do that to just about anyone, including Floyd or Margarito. Cotto is a beast no doubt but the next fight will tell everyone how good he really is, no matter who he fights. Considering if he fights any of the top guys like most think he will
                  YES!! 100% agreed..i love miguel cottos style but when people say he would beat mayweather thats takin it a lil to far..hes a growin fighter and people shouldnt compare him to mayweather YET

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